Diligence311

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Hi Diligence311! I noticed your contributions to Humane Society of the United States and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. Thanks for adding the info on Project Chimps. I've changed some of the content to more accurately reflect the letter that was sent to the PC BoD; unfortunately this resulted in the removal of a few phrases from your submission. I've listed those change on the HSUS talk page; if you can find an alternate reliable source for these, feel free to add them back in. In any case, I hope you enjoy editing many more articles on Wikipedia!

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— Eric Herboso 23:00, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

HSUS/Project Chimps relationship

On Humane Society of the United States, you previously added content that describes the controversy surrounding Project Chimps and how activists are protesting HSUS over it. This is encyclopedic and it deserves to be in the article under the "Criticisms" section. However, you also have attempted to put Project Chimps under the "Affiliates" section for HSUS. This was reverted, because it is not appropriate for Wikipedia to take a stance like claiming that PC is controlled by HSUS when HSUS has explicitly denied that they have any control over PC. While you are free to hold the opinion that HSUS is lying about this -- and they very well might be -- we can't put into the wikipedia article that PC is controlled by HSUS without evidence. The pdf you cited merely showed that HSUS was the primary funder, not the controller. There is much stronger evidence that PC was controlled by HSUS: namely the fact that the PC board had multiple HSUS employees on it for years. But even that is not sufficient evidence to outright claim that PC is controlled by HSUS on wikipedia, especially after those people resigned from the PC board to eliminate this appearance of impropriety.

If you really want to push this idea on the wikipedia page, I would recommend limiting yourself to the "Criticisms" section of the page. Perhaps you could add something to the effect of: "Although HSUS claims that PC is autonomously run, activists have pointed out that X% of the PC board have been HSUS employees between 20XX and 20YY." I think that a sentence like that would be appropriate in the criticisms section (so long as you have a source for it), although it would not be appropriate in other parts of the article. — Eric Herboso 01:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for your kind response re: Peters. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2022 (UTC)