Dirtyfilthy

moooooo Dirtyfilthy (talk) 21:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:AFD/Spots (cannabis)

On this AFD discussion page, you have wrongfully accused me of acting out of bad faith. I am somewhat offended, but I am attempting not to take it personally. I apologize if it seems I have a vendetta against the article, or cannabis users in general. Honestly, I simply don't find the subject notable enough for its own article. I think it would be a very good entry in a larger article about cannabis consumption, though. I think the same about the joints and bongs articles. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 00:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I would like to reiterate the same. Also, allow me to blatantly violate WP:CIVIL for a moment, because I am fucking sick of this shit. There are certain very stoned people on Wikipedia who falsely assume that just because I oppose certain unsourced crud on Wikipedia, that I am some straight-laced person who has never touched a joint. Listen, I've been to college, and let me tell you, I tried just about everything that didn't involve a needle. It is fucked up that people assume otherwise. I think some of this material needs a mention on Wikipedia, but the problem with a whole article on some of these topics is that it is very hard to find reliable sources, so the page just ends up being a bunch of people blogging about the crazy shit they thought up to smoke stuff. It's all word-of-mouth and not very encyclopedic.

There seems to be a perception that either you are in favor of filling Wikipedia with D00D LETZ GET STONED! articles, or else you are a DEA agent. That is crap, and I'm really sick of it. --Jaysweet (talk) 02:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I apologize for freaking out on you there. My bad. I knew my comments were unacceptable and I hit "Save page" anyway, and that's just not cool. My apologies. --Jaysweet (talk) 22:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Sock/Meat

I won't hold it against you, since you had the good faith to apologize. However, I would like to ask you a question or two, and ask that you answer honestly. Are you this user? Or are you a friend or acquaintance of that user? The reason I ask is that this account's only contributions are in Spots (cannabis) and its related AFD discussion. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 15:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's what's known as meatpuppeting. Are there any other users or IPs that you know are real-world friends with that person? (I hope you don't mind that I moved this to a new header, BTW.) ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 00:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

You've already admitted to being a meatpuppet("...but I am friends in RL with that user, that's how the article being up for deletion came to my attention in the first place."), though I don't think you're acting out of bad faith. In fact, on behalf of Wikipedia, I welcome you here, and hope that you decide to stay. Still, you didn't answer my question. Do you know if anyone else is a friend of that IP?

Anyway, the lack of citations and How-to-ish feel of Spots (cannabis) has been fixed, in my opinion. The big problem now is world-wide notability(to establish it as worthy of a standing article) and, to a lesser extent, the lack of real content. As I've said, I think it would be better in a larger article about consuming cannabis. But, agree to disagree. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 00:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean?

What do you mean by this:

<!-- linked to from Spots (Cannabis)-->

Do you mean that the "Adverse effects" section has a link in the Spots (cannabis) article? Or that the Spots section of Cannabis smoking article is linked to from Spots (cannabis)? Or something else? Please explain. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 00:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for ambiguity, I mean I link to Adverse effects from Spots (cannabis) Dirtyfilthy (talk) 00:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries, it just took a moment to register the change to Spots (cannabis) in my watchlist. I don't think a {{main}} is the way to go, though. Maybe a {{seealso|Cannabis smoking#Adverse effects}}, whoich would produce:

See also: Cannabis smoking § Adverse effects

~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 00:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Sweet, thanks, will change Dirtyfilthy (talk) 00:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, (Lol, a little tired from work.) I think {{further| [[Cannabis smoking#Adverse effects|Adverse effects of smoking cannabis]]}} would be better. I'm gonna go ahead and change it, if you don't mind. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 00:31, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, that's what wikipedia's about right? Dirtyfilthy (talk) 00:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)