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Tech News: 2022-49
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikisources use a tool called ProofreadPage. ProofreadPage uses OpenSeadragon which is an open source tool. The OpenSeadragon JavaScript API has been significantly re-written to support dynamically loading images. The functionality provided by the older version of the API should still work but it is no longer supported. User scripts and gadgets should migrate over to the newer version of the API. The functionality provided by the newer version of the API is documented on MediaWiki. [1][2]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 December. It will be on all wikis from 8 December (calendar).
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This Month in GLAM: November 2022
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Wikidata weekly summary #550
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- Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call December 13, 2022: Wikimedia Search Platform Team will be sharing updates on Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) and Blazegraph. For background, see Wikidata:SPARQL query service/WDQS backend update. Agenda.
- The fourth edition of the Coolest Tool Award will happen online on Friday 16 December 2022 at 17:00 UTC! The event will be live streamed on Youtube in the MediaWiki channel.
- Next Wikimedia Research Showcase - December 14. "A year in review from the WMF Research team: Tying our work to the research community".
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- Weekly Lexemes Challenge #71, Qatar 2022
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- The Research and Innovation track at SEMANTiCS 2023 EU welcomes papers...Abstract Submission Deadline: May 09, 2023 (11:59 pm, Hawaii time)
- Computational Metabolomics: From Spectra to Knowledge (Dagstuhl Seminar 22181) (Q115647969), with:
- 3.7 Wikidata: empowering metabolomics research
- 3.14 CxSMILES: computation ready representation for compound classes (about CXSMILES (P10718))
- Videos
- Wikidata as a tool to connect researchers, By Daniel Mietchen - short, full talk
- Using and Editing Wikidata - YouTube
- Introduction to Wikidata and Wikibase for Libraries and Librarians (in Greek) - YouTube
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- Tutorial for adding OSM data with the Wikidata tag and adding Wikidata items (in Indonesian) - YouTube
- BNElab, contribution and reuse in Wikidata (in Guaani) - YouTube
- Tool of the week
- qualifier-constraint-usage.js: Shows what properties this qualifier is a required and allowed qualifier on at the bottom of the qualifier page
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: contact page URL, Nomenclature de tous les noms de rosiers ID, press information URL, changeset, RomArchive person ID, African American Visual Artists Database ID, Bureau of Meteorology location ID, Epigraphic Database Heidelberg ID, Dicionário de Gentílicos e Topónimos lemma ID, manchu.work lexeme ID, Professional Referee Organization ID, CIViC gene ID, Athletics Canada ID, is a number of, Ma'agarim ID, Biographical Dictionary of the Australian Senate ID, Tanzania Parliament member ID, JCDb ID, Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (1st edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (2nd edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (3rd edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (4th edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (5th edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (6th edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (7th edition), Dictionnaire de l'Académie française ID (8th edition), man page, Amazon.com browse node, TV Maze episode ID, International Computer Game Collection work ID, Cultural Good of Croatia ID, JLect entry ID, Open Korean Knowledge Dictionary sense ID, Packard Humanities Institute (PHI) Greek Inscriptions ID
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- Universities that have an associated Mastodon account (source)
- Most frequently occurring titles found on audio tracks (source)
- Development
- REST API:
- We would love to have some feedback on the JSON format for the REST API
- Planning the final pieces that still need doing before the first release
- Vektor 2022: Finished work on making Vector’s new Search work with Wikidata. The changes roll out for testing on test.wikidata.org next week (phab:T275251)
- Query Service:
- Getting a link to the query is now possible in the same place as getting a link to the result of the query (phab:T324218)
- Removed the gif that showed on hover over the button that advertises the Query Builder to make it less annoying (phab:T296135)
- Added wikibase:identifiers to the autocomplete feature (phab:T302057)
- Adjusted the layout of the Query Builder header to be more in line with other application (phab:T288939)
- Constraint violations: When a language name is mentioned in the constraint it will now show the name of the language in the interface language instead of the language itself to make it easier to understand (phab:T316936)
- REST API:
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
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- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
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Tech News: 2022-50
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- An A/B test has begun at 15 Wikipedias for DiscussionTools on mobile. Half of the editors on the mobile web site will have access to the Reply tool and other features. [3]
- The character
=
cannot be used in new usernames, to make usernames work better with templates. Existing usernames are not affected. [4]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 December. It will be on all wikis from 15 December (calendar).
- The HTML markup used by DiscussionTools to show discussion metadata below section headings will be inserted after these headings, not inside of them. This change improves the accessibility of discussion pages for screen reader software. [5]
Events
- The fourth edition of the Coolest Tool Award will happen online on Friday 16 December 2022 at 17:00 UTC! The event will be live-streamed on YouTube in the MediaWiki channel and added to Commons afterwards.
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Archive box
Hello @Fayenatic london:, after my indefinite block not too long ago (a few years ago) I honestly don't want to see an "{{archive box}}" here as then the block and discussion would be "one (1) click away" and I still haven't processed the negative emotions related to it yet. I will restore it in the future, but I'm still not over it now. --Donald Trung (talk) 12:00, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Belated (and hidden on old page) reply: how about using it with a start number? – Fayenatic London 17:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
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Vietnamese royal banner
Hi, you might remember me from our discussions surrounding the old flags of Vietnam before.
But recently there are big gaps I want to fill that I feel would should not be hard... The "dragon star flag" was/is a bit of a mystery, although feels "solved", but aside from that, it is known that the yellow-red-yellow flag was introduced in the 1920's as the royal banner and became a "national flag" during WW2, but what was the royal banner before this?
Surely the emperor must have had some sort of banner to accompany him, what was it when the French colonized the country in the 1850's/1880's, and what was it during the protectorate period before the 1920's?
I get the impression it was a plain yellow (the royal colour), usually with some jagged decorative edges? (the origin to the often misrepresented "Cochinchina flag". As well as the later protectorate flag which added a French canton to a plain yellow flag in Imperial territory. Does this not also correspond to the claims of the "Flag of Minh Mạng" etc?)
Such high-ranking symbols from such modern times as even the 1900's, especially when documented under French rule, feel should not be hard to find some reference too? Especially when considering the information of the adoption of the flags (royal banners) of Cambodia and Luang Prabang (Laos) in the same period.
Do you know anything?
Regards, Havsjö (talk) 07:59, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Havsjö, the thing about imperial banners is that Chinese-style monarchies typically had more than one. A lot of flags were ceremonial and a lot of them had specific (and ceremonial) functions. Regarding the Dragon Star Flag, I'm not sure if it only became the national flag during World War II, I've seen works describe it as "the national flag" during the 1930's, I'm planning on writing an article on it in the future, but the French only started describing it as the Nguyễn Dynasty's national flag in 1941, but in Vietnamese-language works it was already described as "the flag of the south" earlier.
There is also an interesting fake "flag of Cochinchina", namely this one that had been circulating in the West since the Nguyễn Lords period. These types of flags were common in China and Vietnam to mean authority, but I've not been able to find a direct example of a pre-1885 imperial banner of the Nguyễn Dynasty.
Also, the Đại Nam (大南) Traditional Chinese characters flag is legitimate and backed up by historical sources, though this is the earliest actual imperial banner that I've been able to find and some sources will list it as "the national flag" of the Nguyễn Dynasty.
The main flag used by Vietnamese Emperors seemed to have been the five-elements flag, even in 1945 it seemed to have been the flag mostly used in ceremonies. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 09:57, 16 December 2022 (UTC)- Hmm, thanks for the info. (By dragon star flag I meant the yellow with red circle and blue edge, btw.
But do you know what the original for the plain-yellow flag meant? It really do seem like the prevalence of the reports of the plain-yellow so-called "Cochinchina flag" and later plain-yellow french-canton'ed protectorate flag, as well as yellow flags (with various red defacements) being the main type of Vietnamese flag in royal times, indicates a yellow banners use as some sort of more "general" flag... Nguyen royal-yellow banner or ensign of some type? Are there really no French or Vietnamese sources from either back then or now describing the flags used at the time? --Havsjö (talk) 10:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC) - The yellow + red "大南" was even a plain-yellow flag defaced with letters since a flag was need to represent Vietnam that was not the royal banner (as the monarch was not present etc) (or so Ive read...) But then even there the "template" on the Vietnamese ambassadors ship used to make it was a plain yellow flag... Btw, was the yellow + 大南 flag used outside of its provisional role on that diplomatic visit to France? --Havsjö (talk) 10:35, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Havsjö, I know how you used it, but the yellow-red-yellow flag was the actual one, the people pushing for it are using the official name for the later flag to make the fake one "more legitimate".
The yellow flag most likely was the official one, I've seen plain yellow flags in a number of paintings and the protectorate flag is well-documented. In fact, it wasn't just used in Annam and Tonkin, it (or a variant of it) was also used as a merchant flag in French Cochinchina during this period. At least according to a number of contemporary sources.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any sources directly describing the plain yellow flag. In Imperial China (and Vietnam) yellow was the colour of the Emperor and imperial Chinese and Vietnamese flags tend to use a lot of yellow to indicate imperial authority. So, while Chinese and Vietnamese Emperors used the plain yellow flag as a symbol of their imperial authority, I haven't been able to find any French or Vietnamese sources directly describing its usage.
I remember coming across an ancient Chinese book on imperial flag culture at the Wikimedia Commons which could work as a handy guide (as Vietnam and Korea had identical flag cultures), but I've been unable to find it as I can't remember the file name or where the book was. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 10:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC) - Havsjö, The yellow + 大南 flag is mostly attributed in contemporary flag charts, I think that you are confusing it with this flag, but it could be that they repeated it later after 1885. But there's a reason why it has been incorrectly illustrated abroad several times. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 10:51, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Havsjö, I know how you used it, but the yellow-red-yellow flag was the actual one, the people pushing for it are using the official name for the later flag to make the fake one "more legitimate".
- Hmm, thanks for the info. (By dragon star flag I meant the yellow with red circle and blue edge, btw.
- Havsjö, I just realised that there are a number of documented imperial flags in the Bulletin des Amis du Vieux-Huế, but I can't remember in which issue. I should have probably uploaded it to the Wikimedia Commons when I came across it. *Sweaty smile* --Donald Trung (talk) 12:04, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
This Month in Education: End of the 2022
This Month in Education
Volume 11 • Issue 10 • October–November 2022
- 2nd Latin American Regional Meeting on Education
- Adopting Wikipedia for Secondary School Students in Nigeria Classroom
- Celebrating 2022 Vibrance in Kwara State University Malete
- Celebrating the Wikipedia and Wikidata Birthday in school
- Report on school libraries in Poland for the Wikiteka project
- Wiki For Senior Citizens Network
- WikiEducation, Educational practices and experiences in Mexico with Wikipedia and other open resources
- Wikimedia & Education Workshops: a Wiki Movimento Brasil initiative
- An event at the National History Museum in Tirana
- Students 24-hour competition on Wikipedia article writing
- Wiki-Data a Giant at 10
- WikiGraphers: Visualizing Open Knowledge
- Wikimedia Israel’s Educational Innovation: “Students Write Wikipedia” as a Matriculation-Exam Alternative
- Wikimedia Morocco User Group Empowers Moroccan Teachers to Use Wikipedia in the Classroom
- Wikimedia Russia has released the "Introduction to Wikipedia" textbook
- “Wikipedia for School” contest was held in Ukraine for the third time
- Announcing the Wikipedia & Education User Group Election Results
Wikidata weekly summary #551
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- Task/s: Make sure all map data modules have an item and instance of (P31) of map data module (Q18711811).
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- You can now register for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2023, taking place on May 19-21 in Athens, Greece. You can also apply for a scholarship until January 14th. More information: Wikimedia Hackathon 2023/Participate
- digital@IANLS: online Wikidata workshop for Neo-Latinists in February 2023
- Call for Papers on Linked Open Data on Journal BiD: Deadline: Sun, 04/09/2023. Some of the ideas and issues to be included in this issue: Creation and exploitation of knowledge graphs, Information services based on linked open data and knowledge graphs, Artificial intelligence and linked open data, Textual corpora and linked open data, Textual corpora and knowledge graphs, Application of bots in linked open data, Application of bots in knowledge graphs, Linked open data and diversity of genres, Graphs of knowledge and diversity of genres, FAIR and linked open data, FAIR and knowledge graphs, Ontologies and linked open data, Ontologies and knowledge graphs, Application of ontologies in information services.
- Ongoing:
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- Press, articles, blog posts, videos
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- LIVE Wikidata editing #101 - YouTube
- LOD as a way of thinking in the era of digital humanities - a preliminary study on Wikidata/Wikibase practice (in Chinease) - YouTube
- ESEAP 2022 - Wikidata workshop: Intro to Wikidata, Identifiers & Entity Explosion, OpenRefine & Biota - YouTube
- What is the Wikidata database, how to contribute, how to write queries in SPARQL by Valerio Bozzolan (in Italian) - YouTube
- Tools for linking Wikidata and OpenStreetMap by Edward Betts - YouTube
- How to create a wikidata entry for a journalist - YouTube
- LOD is the future - Wikibase application of Rhizome, an independent digital art agency in New York (in Chinese) - YouTube
- Coolest Tool Award 2022 - YouTube
- Tool of the week
- Wikidata Atlas is a system allows the user to search for different types of entities (with geo-coordinates) on Wikidata and visualize them on a world map. (Feedback is very welcome to help evaluate and improve the tool.)
- Check out a similar tool: wiki-atlas
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikidata:Wwwyzzerdd got an update where it now will try to predict good statements to add to Wikidata from Wikipedia articles.
- Writing SPARQL queries can be very challenging. You can find inspiration by browsing and searching in this dataset of 2,400 queries collected from Wikidata. (source)
- The French Wikipedia now uses a Wikidata-based list for the pages on specific dates, without relying on ListeriaBot. Who was born on a December 19th and has an article in French? You now can have the answer thanks to a Wikidata query by going to the page 1er décembre on frwiki and clicking on the infobox link "Naissances du jour". This is a link to a Wikidata list provided by the query service. The query is generated by the template fr:Modèle:Naissances un jour du mois. This follows another such template used to find all persons with a certain surname on frwiki, used on all surnames pages and on some disambiguation pages, fr:Modèle:Liste des personnes ou_personnages par prénom. For the surname Victor (Q539581) (view with Reasonator, SQID) this generates on the page w:fr:Victor_(prénom) a query such as this one.
- Wikidata now has more than 100,000,000 items! Exactly which item was the 100 millionth is unknown as of writing, but there are some clues for anyone who wants to dig into it.
- Survey: What are your most important Wikimedia content partnerships tools in 2022? Closes on January 8, 2023.
- Community Wishlist Survey 2023 opens in January until Monday, Feb 6, 2023
- There is a new website to collect contact information for heritage organizations in Georgia for the purpose of disaster response with the data coming from Wikidata.
- Wikibase 1.38 release is delayed until January 2023
- Job opportunities
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: This section is currently empty due to technical issues with the bot responsible for filling it. If you are interested in keeping track of new properties on Wikidata, you can check the property proposal page for updates.
- New property proposals to review: RPG Site game ID,member of tribe, numéro d'une installation sportive en France, Macmillan Dictionary entry, Macmillan Dictionary entry (American English), Panjab Digital Library ID, Oh!FM-7 ID, Pāia-sadda-mahaṇṇavo entry, model lexeme, format string, travel advisory category, location URL match pattern, Tabelog restaurant ID, service options, RetroAchievements ID, statut administratif, Waddi Punjabi Lughat entry, relative statement frequency, Mertens-Pack Number (MP3), Nintendo-Online ID, does not use, is not part of, object is, Nintendo World Report ID, eTK ID, eVK2 ID, ntower ID, Anadolu Agency infographic ID, digital equivalent of, property describes, Computer Science Ontology topic, BookWalker series ID (global version), Le Grenier du Mac ID, Fascist Latin Texts author ID
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- REST API: We are getting ready for a release in January and would really love more people to test the current state on beta. You can find details for testing at Wikidata:REST API feedback round.
- Vector 2022 search: We have worked on making the new search in the Vector 2022 skin work for Wikidata. You can now test it on test.wikidata.org and soon on Wikidata.
- Query Service:
- Removed the SVG download options for result views where SVG downloads are not supported, such as Map (phab:T311594)
- Fixed the indentation of autocompletion suggestions (phab:T291695)
- Fixed downloading query results in the Query Builder (phab:T323451)
- Lexicographical data:
- Working on showing the Lexeme lemmas when you look at a Lexeme’s history (phab:T312660)
- Fixing a keyboard navigation issue in the lookups on Special:NewLexeme (phab:T324743)
- mul language code:
- Continuing to investigate how to implement language fallbacks on mobile termbox (phab:T323098)
- Investigating how to disallow `mul` descriptions (phab:T313027)
- Improving and harmonizing the footers in the Query Builder (phab:T324356) and Mismatch Finder (phab:T324366)
- Preparing for showing constraint violations to visitors who aren’t logged in (phab:T272132)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Tech News: 2022-51
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 9 January 2023.
Recent changes
- On a user's contributions page, you can filter it for edits with a tag like 'reverted'. Now, you can also filter for all edits that are not tagged like that. This was part of a Community Wishlist 2022 request. [6]
- A new function has been used for gadget developers to add content underneath the title on article pages. This is considered a stable API that should work across all skins. Documentation is available. [7]
- One of our test wikis is now being served from a new infrastructure powered by Kubernetes (read more). More Wikis will switch to this new infrastructure in early 2023. Please test and let us know of any issues. [8]
Problems
- Last week, all wikis had no edit access for 9 minutes. This was caused by a database problem. [9]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.
- The word "Reply" is very short in some languages, such as Arabic ("ردّ"). This makes the Discussion tools button on talk pages difficult to use. An arrow icon will be added to those languages. This will only be visible to editors who have the Beta Feature turned on. [10] [11]
Future changes
- Edits can be automatically "tagged" by the system software or the Edit filter configuration system. Those tags link to a help page about the tags. Soon they will also link to Recent Changes to let you see other edits tagged this way. This was a Community Wishlist 2022 request. [12]
- The Trust & Safety tools team have shared new plans for building the Private Incident Reporting System. The system will make it easier for editors to ask for help if they are harassed or abused.
- Realtime Preview for Wikitext is coming out of beta as an enabled feature for every user of the 2010 Wikitext editor in the week of January 9, 2023. It will be available to use via the toolbar in the 2010 Wikitext editor. The feature was the 4th most popular wish of the Community Wishlist Survey 2021.
Events
- You can now register for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2023, taking place on May 19–21 in Athens, Greece. You can also apply for a scholarship until January 14th.
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