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Thanks you for great contributions to the article. I'd propose to restore the general material on the status of dhimmis, as well on their converison to Islam to the intro. The article is pretty long and a one-sentence intro is not sufficient to summarize it. Pecher ^Talk 19:32, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

That's OK by me. Eagleswings 07:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Why did you find the quote from Lewis about the economic usefulness of dhimmis "polemical"? Pecher ^Talk 14:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Why were dhimmis allowed to keep their religion? THis is a complex issue: too complex to be summarized using just one view in an introduction. On a economic level, yes it did suit the Islamic state, and sometimes conversions were even discouraged for this reason. Yes, the economic rational was real. But the theological and legal prohibitions on forcing dhimmi conversions are quie clear - that is one of the points of Sura 9;29, that if the dhimmi is humbled and pays the jizya, the fighting stops. To gloss over this complexity with this citation is going too fast too far for the introductory paragraphs to bear. Another way of putting it, perhaps with the same reference, could be to say that both the legally 'protected' status of dhimmi religions, and the economic advantage of the jizya tax to the Islamic state worked together as disincentives to forced conversions.Eagleswings 15:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

So, the solution may be to restore the quote into the "Freedom of religion and forced conversions section"? Pecher ^Talk 17:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that makes good sense. It belongs there. I am about to go away for a few days. Would you mind doing this? Eagleswings 21:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Already done, see here. Pecher ^Talk 21:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Quotes on humiliation in Dhimmi

Some editors have proposed to shorten the "humiliation" section by removing most of the quotes as repetitive. The discussion is taking place here. Pecher ^Talk 18:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Bravmann

Please comment on the Bravmann quote here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dhimmi#Bravmann). Thanks --Aminz 00:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Iceland

Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 15:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Excellent improvement on Jizya article

Hi,,

Thanks a lot for the complete quote from the reference for the Etymology and meaning section of Jizya.

Thanks again!Drsms2002 (talk) 04:48, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

What happened to the "Humiliation section" in Dhimmi article?!

Hi,

I'm wondering What happened to the "Humiliation section" in Dhimmi article?!

I believe it contains one of the crucial points that shows clearly the Islamic attitude toward the non-Muslims.Drsms2002 (talk) 05:55, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I've no idea what changed there. Eagleswings (talk) 06:07, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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