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Do not accuse me of being disruptive when I am trying to make sure the article is as accurate as possible. the the pictures MUST align with the sources that YOU have cited. You are trying to include an picture which does not align with the sources, yet you are claiming my edits are disruptive? that is absurd. Edit8384 (talk) 11:32, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Pashtuns celebrate Nowruz in Afghanistan??? Where does it even mention Pashtun? https://www.middleeasteye.net/discover/what-nowruz-explained-persian-new-year-celebrated I googled but couldn't find any information on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HabibKhosti (talk • contribs) 17:56, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

https://www.dvidshub.net/news/67581/kandahar-celebrates-new-year Is one example. nowruz is celebrated in Kandahar and Jalalabad as well. Edit8384 (talk) 20:11, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Many other examples can be given as well. Please stop trying to push your POV into the article. Edit8384 (talk) 20:17, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/04/04/persian-new-year-celebrations-unite-afghans/11865c50-0ae1-41c1-b524-004ed275deaf/ Another example Edit8384 (talk) 20:24, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Those are obviously Persians (not Pashtuns). — Preceding unsigned comment added by HabibKhosti (talk • contribs) 20:35, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Read the article, it literally says Pashtuns. Maybe you as a Pashtun don’t celebrate Nowruz. But many Afghan Pashtuns do. There is tons of support for this. Edit8384 (talk) 20:37, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Where does it says Pashtuns? I am Pashtun of Middle East background and am married to a Persian lady, and my children are mix. We get to eat Haft Mewa every year and I really like it, and we get Persian guests or sometimes we visit them, but that's about it. I respect all religious celebrations of all people, but I don't celebrate any (participate only if I have to). As for Nawruz in Afghanistan, it is banned by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. That says a lot about Pashtuns and Nawruz.

https://www.wuft.org/nation-world/2022/03/21/nowruz-is-banned-in-afghanistan-but-families-continue-to-celebrate/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/dining/afghan-nowroz-celebration-food.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/21/afghanistan-prepares-for-first-nowruz-after-taliban-takeover https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taliban-cancel-public-holiday-nowruz-say-celebrations-allowed-2022-03-20/ https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-21/afghans-mark-nowruz-under-taliban-with-muted-celebrations So we should not put false or contradictory information in Pashtuns article. Another thing is this. If Pashtuns in Afghanistan celebrate Nawruz then what prevents Pakistani and Indian Pashtuns from celebrating it? HabibKhosti — Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

None of the sources you posted say anything about Pashtuns NOT celebrating it. The sources I posted literally say that Kandahar (a Pashtun majority city) for example is a city where noroz is celebrated it also talks about Pashtuns visiting mazar city to celebrate nowruz. In Afghanistan many Pashtuns do celebrate nowruz. Just because the current government there does not like it doesn’t mean that it is not celebrated. There is really nothing more to discuss. Edit8384 (talk) 21:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2019/03/afghanistan-suicide-bombing-attack-kills-one-in-kandahar-march-22 Edit8384 (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Bro, Kandahar has many Persians, including Shia Persians. I believe around 25% residents are Persians. But they are not Pashtuns. It is they who went to mazar city to celebrate, not the Pashtuns. If what you say was true in any way there would have been many images in google images showing Pashtuns celebrating that Persian holiday but there are none. Are you Pashtun or Persian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HabibKhosti (talk • contribs) 22:41, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Read the article, one of the articles literally says they are Pashtuns from Kandahar who went to mazar to celebrate nowruz. I have shown you the many sources, at this point it’s a waste of time debating anything further with you.

Here is a pic of jalalabad people celebrating nowruz https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/image-editorial/afghans-prepare-to-celebrate-the-new-year-marked-on-the-spring-equinox-jalalabad-afghanistan-18-mar-2017-8523662b

here is another of paktika Province https://www.indiablooms.com/world-details/SA/33903/taliban-govt-removes-nawruz-holiday-from-afghanistan-s-calendar.html

as I said, there is nothing more to discuss Edit8384 (talk) 22:54, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Bro, what makes you think I didn't read it? The word Pashtun is not mentioned there. Those are obviously Farsiwans (e.g., Persians, Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc.) of Kandahar, Jalalabad and Paktika. I know about these things because I am Pashtun from Afghanistan. See my supporting evidence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zid-OlU13o4 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/revealed-afghan-chief-accused-of-campaign-of-terror-is-on-us-payroll-2245369.html https://reliefweb.int/report/afghanistan/today-we-shall-all-die-afghanistans-strongmen-and-legacy-impunity https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Nawroz_the_Afghan_Solar_New_Year_DVIDS892361.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Nawroz_the_Afghan_Solar_New_Year_DVIDS892355.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nawroz_the_Afghan_Solar_New_Year_DVIDS892355.jpg If your shy to discuss you shouldn't write false things. Waht do you get out of doing that? HabibKhosti — Preceding undated comment added 02:11, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

I will say it once again, the article I posted clearly says Pashtun. I will link it again for you and write some quotes from it. The article is about Pashtun people from Kandahar going to see “jandeh bala” ceremony in mazar sharif.

Quote #1: “This northern city might seem an odd destination for travelers from Kandahar, which, after all, is the ethnic Pashtun stronghold”

the singer at the ceremony says to the people in the crowd. quote #2: "Looking at the audience, I see that you are all Kandaharis," the singer said into the microphone as he surveyed a sea of heads sporting the sparkly caps and long-tailed turbans common to that southern city. "But my Pashto is not strong, so I hope you will enjoy our music in Dari." So clearly the visitors are Pashtun, that’s why the singer said his Pashto is not good and he hopes they can enjoy the dari music.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/04/04/persian-new-year-celebrations-unite-afghans/11865c50-0ae1-41c1-b524-004ed275deaf/

As I said before, many Pashtuns in Afghanistan celebrate Nowruz, but some consider it haram and do not. It’s very simple and I am not sure what else there is to debate. There really is nothing more to discuss. Edit8384 (talk) 03:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

That's speculation or assumption, and based on your English level and method of arguing you know this is original research. The news report forgot to mention that Kandahar also has a large non-Pashtun population. You admit or deny that? So the Kandahar description is irrelevant. Did the singer interact with every visitor? And all of a sudden there were no others but only people from the far away city of Kandahar??? Is this rational? Even if all were Kandahar Pashtuns that doesn't prove a thing because such events naturally attract people of every race. Why is there no Nowruz celebration in Kandahar? There are a number of YouTubers from Kandahar and they never showed anything. Bro, Wikipedia was started by non-Muslims, and if you're a Muslim then know that when you put obvious false info in it for the purpose to mislead, you're messing with Allah, and Allah is not someone to be messed with. HabibKhosti (talk) 08:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)