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Raiders of the Lost Ark

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That amateur remake was very notable and has become a prime example of Indy fandom. Alientraveller (talk) 21:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

All major movies have fandom, most have amateur remakes, and it is not notable. Editor2008 (talk) 21:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes it is if that crew appeared worldwide on major news and even received praised from Spielberg himself. Take it to the talk page or you may get blocked for starting a revert war. Alientraveller (talk) 21:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Please don't threaten me when YOU have started a revert war. The paragraph I removed is irrelevant advertising for an amateur remake trying to sell videos. If the remake itself is noteworthy (it is not), they should have their own page.Editor2008 (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

  Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Alientraveller (talk) 21:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

You're wrong, and I'll leave WP:CONSENSUS to eventually restore cited, notable information. Please discuss controversial edits anyway: I will not violate 3RR just because you are a vandal with a very jaded viewpoint. Alientraveller (talk) 22:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
I don't see how the edit is controversial. We have a POV disagreement over the importance of a low budget amateur remake. The existence of this remake was added to the ROTLA article years after the remake was shot. It is not remotely newsworthy, and the fact that they have a form letter from Steven Spielberg saying "great job" does not make it so. Has this remake sold more than 10 copies? Has anyone other than the users and their friends, a few people on Youtube maybe, seen it? No. It is not a well-known remake. You are free to disagree. Please do so without auto-reverting every 3 seconds. And please do so without idle threats of vandalism/banning/etc. when in fact this is a simple POV disagreement. If you had been nicer, this would have all been much easier.
Whatever, you're wrong, I'm right. Alientraveller (talk) 22:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

OK, let me calm down. Can you name any other amateur remake? Of course not? Is any other amateur remakers getting a biopic? No. Now revert your misinformed edit and discuss on the talk page. Clearly, no other amateur remake ever made it into Empire, AICN and the BBC now did they? Anyway, I believe WP:CONSENSUS can sort this out and you will revert your deletion when you listen to the facts. Good day to you accidental vandal. Alientraveller (talk) 22:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Here are some reliable sources:
Variety
Austin Chronicles
Wired
Village Voice
The Guardian
Minnesota Public Radio
The New York Sun
Indie Wire

Now, be satisfied. Alientraveller (talk) 22:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Are you not ready to admit your mistake now?

The Age
Time Out
Archaeology News
Pop Matters
The Observer

Alientraveller (talk) 22:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Civility

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  Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Alientraveller (talk) 21:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

  This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Alientraveller (talk) 21:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Reply


If you post on someone else's talk page, especially if your post is heated, and s/he deletes your post, I recommend you don't revert - this only inflames the situation. Addhoc (talk) 21:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Fine, but somebody needs to call this guy out on his rudeness, etc.Editor2008 (talk) 21:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. Spebi 22:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dragonball

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  Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Dragonball (film), is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. This is especially important when dealing with biographies of living people, but applies to all Wikipedia articles. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are already familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add your original reference to the article. Thank you. —Erik (talkcontrib) - 16:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Truce

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Over the past two days you've been reverting whatever edits I've made without even a care for the benefit they give to an article. Now I'm sorry if I was brusque to your mistake in editing Raiders of the Lost Ark, but this isn't going to do anything but waste time we both have to improving the encyclopedia. I'm sorry if I offended you first time round. But frankly, going on a revert rampage and repeatedly post WP:CIVIL violations is not going to change anything. OK? Alientraveller (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I haven't violated anything, and please stop saying that I have. I am happy to have a truce if you (1) treat people with respect, not insult their edits, and not auto-revert edits you don't agree with and call it vandalism and (2) don't revert any of my edits without discussing them first on talk page. In exchange I will severely limit my reverts/edits of your changes. But I will continue to assert a few changes I feel appropriate, like the ET-Spielberg edit -- why is it relevant to the ET article what Spielberg spent the money on? I think you could say something like he made X amount of money and it propelled him to superstar director status, but line items of what he spent his cash on? Editor2008 (talk) 19:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Glad for some civility, and I've saved the E.T. cite for potential use in another article. Your edits are sometimes controversial though, as in the Raiders case, and obviously your notion was disproved. Anyway, good good. Alientraveller (talk) 19:10, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Reply