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Suggestions for article Vijender Kumar

Good, well written article. Can you please try to look up more information on the net and cross-reference available on Wikipedia itself to make it more informative. e.g. [1] . I will try to contribute as much time permits. regards Devopam (talk) 06:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks @Devopam: and Thanks for leaving your comments on this. Please use Keep or Delete on the discussion page to leave your feedback (the way other editors have done). Without this, your comments would not be counted. Cheers! Educationtemple (talk) 10:39, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Project Notes

Rest later. Educationtemple (talk) 20:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Can someone help me to invite other editors here to discuss on the above and take appropriate action such as sending the articles to afd discussion? @W.carter: could you please help and let me know how to get other editors here on the above tasks? Educationtemple (talk) 20:16, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I had to structure it somehow, since it was almost impossible to get a grip on it all, let alone make a comment here since I was constantly hit by editing conflict from your fixing of the list. I think other editors would have faced a similar problem. Always divide large texts into sections for easier access. Btw, when you write a Category, you have to preceed it by a ":" otherwise it becomes invisible and just end up at the bottom of the page as if this page was part of that category.

If you want to get this out to others, you should invite editors in on Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography and Wikipedia:WikiProject India. w.carter-Talk 20:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

All in all, I think this is a commendable effort to set a lot of articles straight. :) A very good start! Best, w.carter-Talk 20:46, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Dear @W.carter:, thanks a lot for all the tweaks that you have done above! I struggled for almost half an hour, but could not set right the categories. I now know how to do it. Thanks.

Yes, all the above Bio articles need attention. I dont want to do it alone, as you know; but the one that I marked as afd, are really the one, which cant be improved, even if I, or someone else want to do so, but still these can be discussed in afd.

Thanks for your compliments. I shall try to contact other editors on the pages that you suggested. Shall I leave a note on the talk pages of those? Educationtemple (talk) 03:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Dear @W.carter: - I spent some time to learn how to transclude a specific section and then transcluded the above on the pages you suggested. for example this. Hope it will now draw attention and we together will take action on these articles as appropriate. Educationtemple (talk) 04:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

How people will discuss these simultaneously on different pages - and while doing so, on every page the discussion be visible in real time. I added a Note "This discussion is trancluded at many pages related to Indian Articles to gather a better overview. Please discuss the above here at the main talk page." above - hope it is OK, or there is some other way? Educationtemple (talk) 05:10, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I think that you should take the advice left to you by an admin on the Project India talk page and have that as the main page for discussions. This is more a concern for India than anything else, and that page has more traffic than your page here. Just change the [[here]] and it will be fine. Perhaps Jim Carter can give you some advice on making things known. I know that he has some experience with getting information to many Wikipedians. That is not something I'm too familiar with. Best, w.carter-Talk 08:18, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

A very wise man has said many times "There is no deadline on the Wikipedia" meaning that sometimes projects can take an awful long time before they are finished. My very own never-ending pet project is fixing articles for these places. ;) w.carter-Talk 08:24, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done Educationtemple (talk) 10:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@W.carter: Did you mean something like this? Yes, I have a special permission by which I can send a single message to multiple users in just one click, however, it has some restrictions. If you need any help, Educationtemple, feel free to message me through email as I'm not very active on Wikipedia this days and I rarely check my talk page. Best, Jim Carter 13:42, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I will need your help Jim to send many of the pointed Bio articles to afd in bulk. Educationtemple (talk) 19:47, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Prof Vijender Kumar VC NALUJAA.jpg

A tag has been placed on File:Prof Vijender Kumar VC NALUJAA.jpg, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

• It is an image licensed as "for non-commercial use only," "non-derivative use" or "used with permission," it has not been shown to comply with the limited standards for the use of non-free content [2], and it was either uploaded on or after 2005-05-19, or is not used in any articles. (See section F3 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) If you agree with the deletion, there is no need to do anything. If, however, you believe that this image may be retained on Wikipedia under one of the permitted conditions then you should do two things. First, please state clearly the source of the image. If it has been copied from elsewhere on the web you should provide links to: the image itself, the page which uses it and the page which contains the license conditions. Second, please add the relevant copyright tag.
• The image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. (See section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Shrikanthv (talk) 12:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi my friend, if the article is a keep, as I now hope it will be, we can always put the pic back under fair use for just that article. ...at least I think that is doable. ;) Correction by me: No fair use for living people. w.carter-Talk 13:49, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

The original photo was found on the website of the University. It was licensed under CC By 4.0. This was the source. I do not understand, why was it deleted! Educationtemple (talk) 14:32, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I think it was the line "indicate if changes were made" that revoked it. It was under CC By 4.0 but with some restrictions and there cannot be any if it is uploaded here. They are very, very picky about that. w.carter-Talk 14:51, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi the reason it was deleted was, you have to get permission from the person in the picture and if you get it , as the owner to send a mail to otrs permissions. Shrikanthv (talk) 06:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Dear @Shrikanthv:, the permission for the use is already in place since the picture has been released under CC license. See This Source. If the picture is already released under CC usage, than the mailinng etc to otrs permission is not required. Yes, if this license is not appropriate, you can specifically say this, and then we will find a solution to get the picture back with appropriate license or search other picture elsewhere. Is CC By 4.0 not a good license for wiki? Only difference between CC By 4.0 and CC By SA 4.0 or other common license on wiki is SA (share Alike) restriction in CC By SA 4.0. If you are clear about it, then please comment here so that I could know an appropriate reason due to which the image was deleted. The one that you have given above is not appropriate since permissions to use the image is already in place on source. Ping to @W.carter: since I am sure, she will have some expert comment here. Cheers! Educationtemple (talk) 06:25, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Trying to help here... , if you see your source and at the end of the page, it says it is protected and rights are reserved and no where it mentions about CC license so may be that is the problem. you have to get express permission from the concerned person in the picture dont you think it is invasion of privacy ? if you are uploading some bodies picture without his concent ?? Shrikanthv (talk) 06:29, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

On the source, just below the pictures of the subject, you can see the note about license. Click that, please. I am a law student, and I know this bit at least. At the end of the page, it may say rights reserved. Having said that, they have released this picture in CC, since it might have been used in various news papers, reports, local surveys etc. They can not release their entire website in CC but specific stuff can be, which they have exactly done. Thanks. Educationtemple (talk) 06:33, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

as a part of another help, here you go have a look at here COM:IDENT , eventhough the website may claim of CC licence given to the page, you have to consider the above page. as per India is concerned you can see its stil no no for publishing a personal picture, the exception is if the concerned person in the picture emails to OTRS allowing it for permission to be published, I think it would be great if you do that Shrikanthv (talk) 08:09, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

here you go check here , see the licences below the image. for you future image uploads check out similar images already present in wiki for long time and see the licences below the image, that should help you out in future uploads also, let me know if you need any other help Shrikanthv (talk) 08:14, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I sorry, but I am by no means an expert on copyright law when it comes to pictures, let alone Indian pictures. To me Shrikanthv's reasoning seems sound and their argument very polite indeed, but you could ask at the Help Desk at the Commons if you like. That is what I usually do when I have some difficulties with the ins a outs of copyrights. Or simply write that email to the owner of the pic to be on the safe side. Maybe you can even persuade him to upload the pic on the Commons himself, if it is free, Best, w.carter-Talk 08:57, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

No problem friends! let the article go through and pass the currently ongoing afd nomination, we will then decide upon how to bring the image back. tc. Educationtemple (talk) 11:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Transclusion issues

The

{{Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics|transcludesection=Indian Biography articles that need attention}}

code is causing the whole of the WT:INB page to be transcluded now that the particular section has moved to the archives (see, WT:BIOG for example). Can you take a look and delete the transclusion code from wherever you had added it, or fix it some other way? Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 05:07, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

See my edits here and here. I assume this was what you were intending to do with your recent edits. Let me know if it wasn't. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 06:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Simply commendable job! Thanks @Abecedare:. Educationtemple (talk) 06:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

@Abecedare: - Is it all repaired or still there are issues? If I remember correctly, it was transcluded on my own talk page, and on the WT:BIOG. Please let me now, if still there are some problems anywhere. Educationtemple (talk) 10:17, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Seems fine. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: Hello

Hi my dear friend! Thanks for asking about me and my mom. Things has improved somewhat with my mom. But I'm still facing health issues, now even I have grown a new problem with me, a steady pain in my lower back causing alot of troubles, even I can't sleep! What I need is blessings from my old friends like you, W.carter, Philg88 and others. Take care, Jim Carter 17:46, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

I can really sympathize with you Jim! My back is why I sometimes edit in the middle of the night. I find it a good way to get through the insomnia. As you say, thank heavens for friends and the WP. Bless you, w.carter-Talk 18:01, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Not exactly a back problem, as it appears the pain is sometime shifting towards the abdomen. Anyway, thanks for your wishes my dear, W.carter. Thank you. Jim Carter 18:44, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

It appears to be Appendicitis. But doctors can tell better. Educationtemple (talk) 18:50, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Jim, you and your mum have my sincerest blessing. Look after yourselves - good health is the most precious gift! All the best,  Philg88 ^♦talk 19:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Our best wishes to you both Jim. Sure mother Nature will cure you both soon. Educationtemple (talk) 19:20, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry

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Talkback

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Help me to find and fix the issues!!

I am writing to inform you that I have added sources, citations and reference links in the article [Kaushik Menon (singer)] and hereby request you to not propose this article for deletion. Please consider my request upon this. Awaiting your reply!

The links you added are good. Add some more like this from news papers. I will help you if you could find more news clips like this. Educationtemple (talk) 07:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC).

@Kaushiksinger:: The issues are the following at present:

• From the creates name, it appears that you yourself created this article. Autobiographies are not accepted on Wiki.
• For every statement after the lead (i.e first paragraph) you need to provide a reference. That should be a news paper clipping (known as secondary source here on wiki). That is missing in this article. If you cant support the claim, delete the claim.
• The info given in tables need to be proved with appropriate citations. May be news paper mentions and clippings.
• I am not sure how the senior admins will handle the first issue i.e. COI/Conflict of Interest

* Good luck. Educationtemple (talk) 08:02, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Kaushiksinger: Hello! Please read and follow the excellent advice Educationtemple has given you. You should also read Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. w.carter-Talk 08:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple:

Thank you so much for pointing out the corrections and helping me out!! It is actually not a biographical article, I have just created the username in the name of that singer. Secondly, as you said, I have provided the reference for every statement after the lead with reliable secondary sources and removed the content that cannot be claimed. Also, I have added relevant citations at the places where it has been mentioned as citations needed in the rest of the article. Is there anything else to be done? Please let me know, I will work on it.

Inform the same at the page where it is being discussed for deletion. Good luck. Educationtemple (talk) 07:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@Educationtemple: Thank you, I have informed in the page you have mentioned. Awaiting a positive response.

Sudha Bhattacharya

Please look into this. Thanks, --Skr15081997 (talk) 12:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Also Shyam Bhat.--Skr15081997 (talk) 12:16, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Sure, let the afd for other such articles, Fellows etc conclude, based on the results, I would be glad to either nominate these Fellows too in afd or just remove the notability tag and let them remain here as full fledged great article. Cheers! Educationtemple (talk) 13:48, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Indian scientists

We really should not be discussing this on an AfD. There is need for care. Are all of IAS, NASNAAS, ISCA and INSA comparable to say the Australian Academy of Science? How many persons per year are elected to membership. Is membership purely an honour and by election not application? Do any of the Societies and Academies publish biographies of Fellows after they die? For the Royal Society and the Australian Academy of Science these are wonderful sources of information. Are biographies of scientists published anywhere else? --Bduke (Discussion) 08:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Bduke: Re: I think you have also given a keep based on that the subject is a Fellow of Indian Academy of Science. Now you yourself are thinking back whether these academies are equal to Royal Society or not! I have nominated the article in afd, since I know the difference between IAS and Royal Society. I know that these two are not equal. I nominated afd, but you and other editors given a keep. It was you and other editors, who should have thought all the above before giving a keep whether a Fellow of IAS should be comparable to FRS. If this subject could be a keep based on that he is a Fellow of IAS, all the Fellows of IAS deserve to be here on WP. This is my point, and I think I am honest and fare in this. Let the statues pas, and if this article is a keep finally, I am going to refer to these discussions when I myself create articles for all the Fellows of IAS on WP. Thanks. Educationtemple (talk) 10:01, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Please read what I said. I said all of the various academies. I looked at IAS. It had reputable founders. The Fellows were appointed and their number was not massive. I agree it is not the Royal Society, but I thought it probably was OK. I have not looked at the other academies. They may be different. The Australian Academy of Science is not up to the level of the Royal Society either but its Fellows still qualify for articles in my opinion. Referring back to this Afd will not be well received. Also this Afd is not concluded yet. --Bduke (Discussion) 10:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Some important discussions are ongoing here on these afds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Please join the discussion and opine there too, since this will create a precedent for other such Indian articles on WP existing now, and created in future. Please note that many of these articles are stubs about Fellows of various Indian societies similar to IAS, such as FFNAS, FIAS, FNAAS, FISCA, FINAS. Lets normalize the rules without any bias. Cheers! Educationtemple (talk) 14:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Best of luck!

I wish you happy wanderings wherever you may go and hope that you in time will find your way back to us here. Remember that even when you become a lawyer with the law on your side, you will lose some cases. You have to learn how to move on after that. All the best, w.carter-Talk 11:16, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Same wishes here. Though I would recommend you take a nice wikibreak first and consider retirement only after that. May your work last long here (and maybe even get improved by someone else, who knows?). Regarding that issue which you raised at the WP:INB, I think it was good that you did it, at least experienced editors saw it and commented on it; your part of the job was done. Anyway, all the best. - Joel. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Tensor

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How are you doing?

How are you doing? I suggest/request you to come back and resume editing. --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Seconded. — Yash! ^(Y) 13:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)