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Ms Sarah Welch Hello, could you take a look at the Arjuna article's recent edits. I think there's been a lot strange activity occurring there in the last few days as a few users have been deleting and replacing major parts of the article with no explanation given. For example, the user 47.29.220.62 whose edits you reverted in the Krishna article has also been deleting and replacing major parts of the Arjuna article also with no explanation. I'm kind of new to Wikipedia so I don't know exactly how to respond to this. Thanks. EdwardElric2016, (talk) 7:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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Diannaa Thank you very much for clarifying this to me. I will try to make a habit of these procedures in my future edits. EdwardElric2016, (talk) 16:35, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Alam of the Mughal Empire

The consensus is that this is a fake flag. Please don't add it anywhere. --regentspark (comment) 01:41, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

regentspark Oh really? I saw it on the Alam Wikipedia article so I assumed it was real. I'm really sorry about that. Thanks for letting me know. I added this flag to a few other pages so I'll go back and remove them. EdwardElric2016, (talk) 1:45, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

No worries. We've tried getting rid of it on commons but nothing ever goes away over there. --regentspark (comment) 01:51, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

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Achaemenid presence in India

Thank you for asking some very interesting questions at Pataliputra's (पाटलिपुत्र) talk page (copied below). It is unfortunate that he chose not to answer them.

I have recently gotten an interest in this part of Indian history and was surprised by the lack of information I was able to find on this subject. ... I have a few questions that I have been meaning to ask you. Are you aware of any Indian sources that mentions the Achaemenid Empire or its rulers in any way? From what I know, Panini who was from around Taxila never mentions the Achaemenids. I want to try to match the Achaemenid records with the preserved oral Indian histories of that time so that I can be able to have a general idea to when certain events from that time took place, for example when the Buddha lived. When do you think is around the most likely time Buddha lived? I am aware that the Buddha knew of people who were from Taxila. I am also aware that Taxila didn’t expanded significantly until after the Achaemenid conquest. Since it probably took some decades for Taxila to develop and gain the reputation it got in India during the Buddha’s lifetime, I think it’s more likely that the Buddha lived most of his life in at least the 400s BC rather than any part before 518 BC. What is your opinion on my thought process? Do you agree or disagree? I can probably think of a few more questions but my post is already long enough as it is so I’ll end it here for now. Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope to hear back from you soon.

You might find this article helpful:

• Vogelsang, W., "The Achaemenids and India, Two Worlds in Contact", in Heleen Sancisi-Weerdenburg; Amelie Kuhrt (eds.), Centre and Periphery: Proceedings of the Groningen 1986 Achaemenid History Workshop, pp. 93–

The Persians are of course mentioned in various Indian sources including Panini as Parasikas. However, there is no mention of the Achaemenids (whose Sanskrit name might have been written as something like Sakhamanas). Neither is there any mention of an emperor (Samrat or Chakravarti). But then Indians were not particularly good at recording history.

Vogelsang mentions that the Achaemenid rule in India might have been so indirect that the Indians didn't notice them. It is possible that the empire retained local rulers, reporting to satraps in Bactria and Arachosia. So Indians might have come into contact only with those officials, if at all. When Alexander the Great invaded, there were no Persian satraps or officials in India fighting them; it was all local tribes. Moreover, these tribes essentially overthrew Alexandrian satraps as soon as he left the country. We can't say if the Achaemenids might have fared any better. There is an unfortunate tendency among historians to take the classical Greek and Roman writers at face value, even though it is clear that most of their writings were hearsay laced with fantasies. This is definitely not the historical method. And, on Wikipedia, there is heavy POV-pushing based on dubious and outdated historians.

What light might all this throw on the dating of Buddha? The only thing I can think of is the ruler Pukkusati of Taxila, who is said to have been a contemporary of Buddha. The narratives don't mention that he was subsidiary to an Achaemenid emperor. So, he must have been either before Darius I or sometime after him, when Taxila might have managed to become independent. This might mean that Buddha might have lived either around 600 BC or or around 400 BC, but not any time in between. But then it is not clear if Taxila was ever a part of the empire at all.

Hope this helps. Best regards, Kautilya3 (talk) 11:14, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

By the way, Taxila was a city before the advent of the Achaemenids, as known from the archaeological excavations at Taxila, Hathial site. The Indian sources always regard Taxila as part of Gandhara whereas the classical sources say Gandhara was to the west of Indus (based at Pushkalavati). This might mean, for example, that Taxila was unknown to the classical writers, and hence probably not part of the Achaemenid empire. It might also mean that the term Pactyice used by Herodotus might be some form of Paschyat (Sanskrit for western). You can imaginen Indians calling Pushkalavati the western Gandhara, and Taxila the eastern Gandhara. The Mahabharata says that the two cities were founded by two sons of Bharata, the brother of Rama. So, the connection between the two is clear in the Indian mind. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello Kautilya3, Sorry for the late response. I definitely appreciate the time and effort you took with regards to your explanations regarding my questions. It is unfortunate that the other user decided not to answer any of my questions. I had noticed that he was greatly expanding articles related to my subject of interest so I assumed he was at least knowledgeable enough to answer my questions thoroughly. But thank you for deciding to answer them instead. Regards EdwardElric2016 (talk) 11:24, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

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Modernism (music)

Hi. Many thanks for all your recent edits on Modernism (music). I just noticed that there are quite a few references on that page that don't point to any sources. I wasn't sure if they're related to your changes, or if you were aware of them, but just wanted to mention a script that I've found useful in identifying such issues:

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