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Rohit Sharma
editYou keep adding {{Indian patronymic|Rohit|Gurunath Sharma}} to the article on Rohit Sharma. Please provide evidence for this, or stop doing it.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- It’s clearly mentioned in early life section of the article that Gurunath Sharma is the name of Rohit’s father. Despite this, Rohit is referred to as Sharma in the article, which might lead to readers believing that it’s his given name. That’s the reason why I added patronymic Indian name hatnote to the article. EliteFairy (talk) 15:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- You have misunderstood how Wikipedia articles are written. Let me explain giving an example: Edward Heath. The article refers to him as Heath, which was his family name (surname). His "given name" was Edward. In the article it says that Heath's father was William George Heath. Evidence of Heath's parentage is not evidence of a patronymic.
- If Heath's name had been Edward ibn William Heath or Edward Williamovich Heath, then "ibn William" or "Williamovich" would be patronymics. It is permitted to refer to people by their patronymic; for example the article on the much-revered religious leader Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab refers to him throughout as "Ibn ʿAbd-al-Wahhab".-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- What about Indian names? If you look at the wikipedia article of Indian actor Prithviraj Sukumaran, you can see a hatnote mentioning that Sukumaran is his patronymic surname. The same can be seen in articles about other Indian actors such as Suresh Gopi and Kunchacko Boban.
- According to MOS:PATRONYMIC, many South Asian people use only a personal name, which may be followed by a patronymic; in such cases, they should be referred to by their personal name. In the case of Rohit Sharma, Gurunath Sharma is clearly his patronymic surname. EliteFairy (talk) 19:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If you look at articles about Indian people such as Jawaharlal Nehru, Rahul Gandhi, Narendra Modi, Pranab Mukherjee, and Manmohan Singh you will see that they follow the normal Wikipedia conventions. If you believe that an article should not follow that convention, you need to use the article talk page to present evidence that clearly supports what you are saying. -- Toddy1 (talk) 20:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If Heath's name had been Edward ibn William Heath or Edward Williamovich Heath, then "ibn William" or "Williamovich" would be patronymics. It is permitted to refer to people by their patronymic; for example the article on the much-revered religious leader Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab refers to him throughout as "Ibn ʿAbd-al-Wahhab".-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)