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There is no reason for not using their official titles, which is why I am not sure why you keep removing those titles. Also, the way you've changed the King and Queen's style indicates that monarchy in Sweden is abolished, and as far as i know, it is not. King [Name] is how ex-monarchs are referred to. Carl XVI Gustaf is not ex-King, and therefore must be referred to as HM The King. One more thing: you cannot go around and shorten people's titles just like that. There is no such person as Princess Birgitta of Hohenzollern. She is Princess Birgitta of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen! Surtsicna (talk) 07:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)4

First I want to apologize for being a bit rude in my post above. I burst into flames too easily :( Now, let's get something clear: official websites are not always correct! I am sure you will agree that British people take their monarchy more serious than any other European nation, but check the the British Royal Family's official website: it says that the title of Prince of Wales may be granted only to the eldest son of a Sovereign (while in fact George III was created Prince of Wales by his grandfather). We shouldn't always follow their example. Some anonymus user claimed that the Duke of Edinburgh himself called his daughter-in-law 'Pricess Diana' and that we should also call her by that (wrong) name - then someone really smart responded that we don't take our orders from any particular person, not even royalty.

As for Swedish princes not being known by their ducal titles, I need to say that other princes are also informally known by their princely titles, but we always use their substantive title in the templates. The Princess of Wales is known as Prince Charles, but we use his substantive title.

I've also noticed your edit of Template:Belgian Royal Family. I cannot say that I agree with that statement either; see Template:Greek Royal Family - would you change HM The Queen of Spain to HM Princess Sophia? Surtsicna (talk) 19:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)