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February 2024

Hello, I'm ThaddeusSholto. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Draft:Peter Ashmore (theatre director and actor), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please see WP:IMDB and familiarize yourself with what is and isn't a reliable source. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 17:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Once again, IMDB cannot be used as a reference. See WP:IMDB. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 17:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

OK.Sorry. I thought they were reliable. Ellenrich (talk) 18:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Ashmore (theatre director and actor) (February 6)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Ashmore (theatre director and actor) (March 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AntientNestor was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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AntientNestor (talk) 16:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Ashmore (theatre director and actor) has been accepted

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AntientNestor (talk) 17:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear AntientNestor. Thankyou so much for your quick reply and for being so patient with me. Thanks also for telling me to place my internet links to Newspaper Obituaries in the References section and not in the External links. I shall work on improving the article. Happy editing and advising to you!

Ellenrich Ellenrich (talk) 17:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

AntientNestor, This is incredible! In the space of a couple of hours other users have added three more references! Brilliant! Ellenrich (talk) 18:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Ashmore deserves an article. I'll be watching its development with keen interest. AntientNestor (talk) 21:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Copyright violation on Peter Ashmore (theatre director and actor)

Hello Ellenrich! Your additions to Peter Ashmore (theatre director and actor) have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

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I'm deeply embarrassed by this, because I should have picked up on this before accepting the article—sorry.

There's no suggestion that you're "passing off", because you included the source as a reference. Thank you. --AntientNestor (talk) 09:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

The final paragraph was taken from the Guardian Obituary, called The Director's Cut written by Philip Purser. Can I include it as a quotation with marks "..." citing the source? What is the maximum amount of words permitted in a quotation? AntientNestor, I look forward to your reply. Ellenrich (talk) 12:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I checked the rules re direct quotations and have added the lines from the Guardian Obituary. Hope you like look of it. Ellenrich. Ellenrich (talk) 13:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

It's an improvement, but going by WP:QUOTE I'd describe it as "marginal", at best. However, if you're going to give it a run, please give Philip Purser a wikilink. The page will be the subject of a further review soon, with a second opinion. If the second reviewer doesn't agree, I'm likely to get a telling off—Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously.

If the paragraph survives, the next stages are wikilinks for everyone and everywhere else, throughout the article, and a standard format for the references. The maintenance tags at the top of the page can be removed then.--AntientNestor (talk) 13:45, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear AntientNestor, I cannot give Philip Purser a wikilink because he died 01/08/2022 at the age of 96. Ellenrich (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Just place square brackets round the name, like this: [[Philip Purser]]. The words will turn blue and when clicked will link to the article. AntientNestor (talk) 16:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

When I went to edit my References section all refs had disappeared! But the refs are present in Read mode. All I can see under the heading is

Can you please help me? Ellenrich (talk) 18:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

The "References" section can't be edited directly. The {{Reflist}} tag automatically generates a numbered list of references from the <ref></ref> pairs placed (in edit mode) where necessary in the article text. The references pop into view when you switch from edit mode to a viewable mode—"Preview" or "Publish". More at WP:INTREF2.

At present there 20 references, which is good for an article this size.--AntientNestor (talk) 21:45, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

I was able to find the Adam Benedict reference you cite from The Independent, but not the obituary from The Daily Telegraph (only the that of the admiral of the same name). Is it right?--AntientNestor (talk) 08:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

I found the Daily Telegraph obituary but could only look at it in small scale because it was on Newspapers.com subscription site. Yes, only free the one is about the admiral. The Stage newspaper and Guardian obituaries are also only on that subscription site. Maybe they are free to view somewhere else. Thanks for looking! Ellenrich (talk) 11:07, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Can you combine the Telegraph refs, using the <ref name=DT>{{cite news}}</ref> format, like I did with Benedick?

I had a PAYG account with The Stage, but my credits kept timing out before I could use them, so I closed it. The Guardian's usually free to view. AntientNestor (talk) 11:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand how to combine the Telegraph refs using the code you provided. I cannot visualize it. Ellenrich (talk) 12:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Charles Hickman

I have made a requested move at Talk:Charles Hickman (theatre director and actor).

I was curious as to why you removed a lot of the useful links. Wikipedia articles are written by people who are knowledgeable and interested in a subject to be read by people who may not be that knowledgeable in the subject. So having links to terms that are not so common to the general reader, such as [[Chigwell School]], [[RADA|Royal Academy of Dramatic Art]], and [[West End theatre]]s, serve to help the reader gain an understanding of what they are reading about.

Also editors templates such as {{Use dmy dates}} and {{Use British English}} should be left in place. They help to promote consistent date and spelling formatting. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 17:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree that R.A.D.A is a useful link and I will put it back. Chigwell School has no bearing on my article. West End theatre is too vague a topic but I did leave other individual theatre links. However, someone, maybe not you, put links to New York and London which are a complete distractions and way off my topic. Ellenrich (talk) 18:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Agree with the New York and London but Chigwell School does have a bearing on the article in that it allows the reader to see what his background and education was. By the way please read WP:OWN. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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