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Wow. Talk about bold edits. I like it! I don't know whether it will end the edit war or touch off renewed battle, but just at the moment it's a much better, clearer article. Thanks! Karen 00:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. I'm still sort of boggled at having had the guts to dive into a live edit war, but if it sticks, it'll have been worth it... Zack

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Rewrite of Spooling

There are several problems with your rewrite of Spooling. My first thought was to revert the edit, but it might be better if you could fix it up. The problems that I noticed were

1. Spooling does not mediate between the computer and the peripherals. SPOOL is an application that runs on the computer, in parallel with other work.
2. Media copies on a 1401 were not spooling, they were an alternative to spooling.
3. Spooling is not just buffering of job output, it is buffering of job input, typically card-to-tape or card-to-disk copying in parallel with execution of earlier jobs.
4. The term "Simultaneous Peripheral Operation On Line" in the IBM program "SPOOL System, 7070-IO-076" goes back to the 1950's. Given that the common term at the time was reel rather than spool, a backronym seems unlikely.

Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 16:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. Responding in order:

1. The first sentence of the article does not need to be specific about exactly where the spooler process runs, and I think "mediating between a computer and a slow peripheral" is an accurate description of what spooling does, even if the mediation happens to be done by the computer itself.

The key word is online. That means that it runs on the same machine. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

1. I don't have personal experience with, or references for, 1401-era computing; what I wrote is my best guess at a sensible interpretation of the corresponding paragraphs of the old article, which were not terribly clear. I would welcome targeted improvements to that section by people who remember those days and/or can provide references. Having said that, it seems to me you are insisting on a very narrow interpretation of the meaning of the phrase---too narrow for a general audience.

Things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk)

1. Yes, spooling can be applied to either input or output; however, I think it's important to put the discussion of print spooling (the most common modern application) first, and that is a form of output. Some forms of input spooling appear in the "other applications" section; if you'd like to flesh them out and/or add more that would be fine by me.
2. In the absence of hard evidence, I think the discussion of the origin of the term is sufficiently hedged both ways as is.

Perhaps this conversation should continue on the talk page.

Elwoz (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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