Emenrigen

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Sources

You need to have a look at WP:CITE, there does not need to be a link for a source to be valid, it's a book. See also WP:EDITWAR. TylerBurden (talk) 11:34, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• TylerBurden, i'm glad you didn't ignore me by writing to me on the talk page). If you refer to a book when editing, you must either indicate the page with the exact quote, or provide a link to an url in order to check this quote. Otherwise, such proposals qualify as original research. Emenrigen (talk) 11:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
• Secondly, I would like to point out that the scientific article to which I refer was written by a specialist, and I do not find anything about your authors on the Internet, so this is most likely an unauthoritative source. Emenrigen (talk) 11:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  You most certainly seem smart enough to google so I'm surprised you didn't find this which came up straight away among other results. I have no issue with your content, I have an issue with you edit warring to remove this long standing, referenced content. This combined with your other edits almost makes it look like you're on some anti-normanism campaign, which hopefully you're not. TylerBurden (talk) 11:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  In addition the page is specified, too. TylerBurden (talk) 11:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  TylerBurden, I could not find the text of the book in the public domain to verify the information indicated in the article. Emenrigen (talk) 11:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  And your references website isn't even loading for me. TylerBurden (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  I am thus also unable to verify your material, if you are personally unable to read the book, then that is your problem not Wikipedias. Does not give you any right to remove valid references. TylerBurden (talk) 12:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  TylerBurden, i appreciated your joke. Let's put it this way: I'm currently buying this book on Amazon (exactly the same edition), and if I don't find this quote on the right page, I delete the entire sentence from the article. Emenrigen (talk) 12:13, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  I'm not joking about anything, there is a lot of POV pushing in this area and the fact that you just removed that text without even bothering to verify it tells me you might be part of the little club that does its best to rewrite history to fit modern Russian beliefs. Your website still isn't loading, by the way, so unless it starts working I'll be removing that soon as well. TylerBurden (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  Surely with such a big focus on verification you wouldn't send us to a broken site when we try to verify your own material? TylerBurden (talk) 12:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  If by "website" you mean a URL, you could google for a working one. Emenrigen (talk) 12:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC).

  That's not how references work, like I said, it will be gone unless it's a temporary outtage. Nice that you are not even trying to deny your agenda though. TylerBurden (talk) 12:27, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  TylerBurden, I hope you got what I meant. If I don’t find a similar offer on the right page, I delete the information from the article right away. Emenrigen (talk) 12:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC).

  Yes, I get it, you are willing to edit war and be blocked for edit warring if it means having your way. I can't control your actions or agendas, but I would recommend trying to follow Wikipedia policy. TylerBurden (talk) 12:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

  TylerBurden, I will try to be brief. There is a rule "WP - not in the source." And here, as you say, the edit war? I have to go Emenrigen (talk) 12:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC).

  So when you find it you will leave it alone. Great. TylerBurden (talk) 12:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Reference

Dear Emenrigen, I was a bit surprised by this edit. Have you read the entire article so that you understand the information properly in context? Also, on what do you base your belief that everybody all of a sudden forgot the old language?--Berig (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• Hello Berig. My belief is based on an article added, as I understood from the page story, by you. Emenrigen (talk) 18:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, and according to Melknikova, they started to speak OES, in the mid 10th c. but the knowledge of ON was not lost until the late 11th c. This makes the Rus' elite bilingual during that time.--Berig (talk) 19:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

As you probably realize, language change in a population does not take place overnight. It takes several generations, and during that time that population is bilingual.--Berig (talk) 19:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• Berig, the sentence you are referring to is: Parallel Old Norse («Russian») and Slavic names of the Dnieper rapids listed in the treatise suggest that Constantine’s informant, a representative of rus was bilingual. Here are talking about the Vikings of the time of Constantine Porphyrogenitus. Emenrigen (talk) 19:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Further, it is said about the Varangians that in the 11th c. they basically lost Old Norse. Emenrigen (talk) 19:13, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, but the time we are talking about is the mid 10th century, not the 11th century. Nobody denies that they lost Old Norse during the 11th century.--Berig (talk) 19:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

• Berig, but still you cancel TylerBurden's edit. Emenrigen (talk) 19:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

He just modified yours, and I doubt that TylerBurden minds my change. If he does, he can discuss it with me.--Berig (talk) 19:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Good morning, Berig. To be honest, I do not fully understand your point of view, but after you accused me of being destructive, my opinion of you has changed a lot. Emenrigen (talk) 05:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Dear Ermigen, please try to have some good faith here, and try to trust me. I did not accuse you of being "destructive". I just pointed out that I think you need to get better acquainted with the topic before you start reverting.--Berig (talk) 05:46, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Berig, just give a full quote from the source, without gag like "bilingual". Emenrigen (talk) 05:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh, my! Why don't you read Melnikova's article from beginning to end instead, so you get the context?--Berig (talk) 08:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Regarding this comment on Talk:Volodymyr Zelenskyy: he *does* have two legs in the picture. Try viewing it with higher brightness and contrast. Kleinpecan (talk) 09:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Kleinpecan, even when the focus function is turned on, nothing is visible. Sincerely, Emenrigen (talk) 09:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Emenrigen. Thank you for creating Word about the destruction of the Russian land. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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✠ SunDawn ✠, no problem at all. Thank you for appreciating my contribution. Sincerely, Emenrigen (talk) 11:10, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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