User talk:Fabartus/Archive10

CONTENTS

End of December 2007, through early April 2008

pingagain

Thanks a lot for your help FrankB/Fabartus. I'm afraid I might need a little more though! More at Template_talk:Slideshow#Suspect_you_want_a_table. Rupert Clayton (talk) 01:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I've responded to your posts on my talk page. Let's try to get the slide show working for you either in French or via monobook.js, so you can see how it operates (and hopefully help me fix the lingering IE7 issues!) Rupert Clayton (talk) 16:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Sadly, I have had to revert the template to the div version, as the JavaScript functions search for and specifically interact with the div tagging. Your carefully adjusted table version has been copied to User:Rupert Clayton/slideshow template (table format). Once you, me or a proper JS coder has worked out how it all interacts, we might be able to get the table-version working. Rupert Clayton (talk) 18:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Silver Age formatting codes

those are the result of pasting a word doc with smart quotes directly into the editor screen of the bar rather than running it through notepad first.

Ooops.

Oh well.

Rick Rick Boatright (talk) 04:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Simple english Wikipedia @ Village pump proposals

I have replied to your post there. Just to let you know in case it's not watchlisted.-- penubag  05:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

HTML at Middle Ages

I experimented with this as you suggested with the following results. First: my browser is Safari, and viewing your edit in the preview pane didn't resolve the issue. What eventually worked was this markup, excluding the "nowiki"s:

{{FixBunching|beg}} {{Commons-gallery<!--|R=Middle Ages -->}} {{FixBunching|mid}} {{Commons-gallery<!--|R=1 -->|Atlas of the medieval age|:|p=Middle Ages Historical Atlas}} {{FixBunching|mid}} [[Image:Giotto.mourning.750pix.jpg|thumb|270px|''Lamentation'', [[Giotto di Bondone]], c. 1305]] {{FixBunching|end}}

This displays as an intact lede section, with the 2 nav boxes at upper right above the Giotto jpg, and the Contents below the lede section in the usual way. I'm not sure if this is the result you intended, but hope this is helpful. Ewulp (talk) 01:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the courteous response... and apologies for missing your post. I could blame the holidays (and to some extent, legitimately can), but it was more likely a near in time post banner message was the next I saw coupled with my normal preoccupation of having twenty irons in the fire all at once on this project... I sortof just keep going where and whenever I have to leave off whatever the day or time... and so I just 'now' saw your message. (Heck, I talk to myself out loud too much as it is... I'd really be in bad shape if I started talking to myself on my talk too! <g>)

Insofar as your 'data' goes, makes perfect sense. The various browsers seem to have "issues" on the corners of HTML blocks, and inserting the FixHTML/FixBunching forces alignment by placing the contents in table structures. IIRC, I did not put a 'mid' call between the two, and Safari isn't one I've tried (Is that Unix platforms?). Sadly, my main computer and most of my browsers currently are in the repair shop, so say a prayer! <g> Hope the hard drive is alive at least!

FYI, the 'pre' block command can show things a bit better in many cases, as it essentially is equivalent to putting a nowiki on each end of a line, and letting the newlines do there thing:

{{FixBunching|beg}}
{{Commons-gallery<!--|R=Middle Ages -->}}
{{FixBunching|mid}}
{{Commons-gallery<!--|R=1 -->|Atlas of the medieval age|:|p=Middle Ages Historical Atlas}}
{{FixBunching|mid}}
[[Image:Giotto.mourning.750pix.jpg|thumb|270px|''Lamentation'', [[Giotto di Bondone]], c. 1305]]
{{FixBunching|end}}

With respect to the article... Danged if I can find an edit summary suggesting it was removed after this one... but bottom line, sometimes one just has to throw some spagetti against the wall to see how much sticks. Looks like this lot didn't.

Intuitively, disabling the "float Right" as shown in the commented version you report should be fine, and constrained (on most browsers) by the table element. Safari apparently gives a different order of precedence to elements, and prioritized the right float higher... or something like that. RU sure you needed to comment out the float command "<!--|R=1 -->"? Or the other, or did you add the {{FixBunching|mid}} after? Hmmmm my edit looks to me to be identical to your "success", so what the heck are we talking about anyway?

In any event, the issue is probably moot. This society is bound and determined to not give sister projects any free publicity, and so far as I'm concerned, putting things down in external links is about the same as saying "this is unimportant, you can stop reading now". Sigh.

Have a great new year, and again, sincere apologies for the tardy detection of your message. // FrankB 05:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The delay was no problem, I figured you were wikibreaking for the holidays. To answer a few questions: I'm using OS X, and, starting with your edit, all I did was to delete

{{TOCnestright|before=

at the top, and eliminate a pair of curly brackets at the end of the whole sequence (my HTML skills are minimal at best, so I didn't do anything creative). Just now I tried removing the commenting-out, resulting in:

{{FixBunching|beg}}
{{Commons-gallery|R=Middle Ages}}
{{FixBunching|mid}}
{{Commons-gallery|R=1|Atlas of the medieval age|:|p=Middle Ages Historical Atlas}}
{{FixBunching|mid}}
[[Image:Giotto.mourning.750pix.jpg|thumb|270px|''Lamentation'', [[Giotto di Bondone]], c. 1305]]
{{FixBunching|end}}

This displays a bit tidier than the version I reported above; The boxes now align with the jpg at upper right, where before they were too far left, not flush with either side of the jpg.

Personally, I don't think putting things into external links consigns them to oblivion, as they're easy to find there and users quickly learn that they're worth exploring. Simple English is another matter, well hidden among languages where users are unlikely to look for it; until it was pointed out to me last month I had never noticed it. All the best in the new year! Ewulp (talk) 07:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Cite press release/doc2

'Template:Cite press release/doc2' has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 02:39, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks Dot... Good catch ferreting that one out... that was an old proposal that didn't fly with the community. I also db-authored a few more, and apologies for not tidying up sooner when the discussion died out on that idea. // FrankB 19:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)$

Merry!

User:Piotrus and friends, in the midsts of Wigilia, wish you to enjoy this Christmas Eve!

New simple English proposal

I have some new examples up the village pump but you said your computer is slow, so here are my proposals: here, here, and here. This is how a template at the bottom of the article would look like: here. I used your idea that people may not even get to the bottom of the article. and have a happy new year, by the way! -- penubag  22:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:GG Cover 16.jpg

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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter — Issue XXII (December 2007)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXII (December 2007)
Project news The Intelligence task force has been created. The contest department has completed its ninth month of competition. The top scorer this month is Blnguyen, with 22 points, followed by Dreamafter, with 8 points, and Redmarkviolinist, with 6 points. Blnguyen also remains the overall leader, with 162 points in total. All project members are encouraged to submit the articles they're working on as entries. Help with converting deprecated infoboxes is needed; any assistance is welcome! {{WPMILHIST}} now supports an explicit tag (class=DAB) for marking disambiguation pages.	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Albuera Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081) Battle of the Gebora Constantine II of Scotland Francis Harvey Vasa (ship) Wulfhere of Mercia New A-Class articles: 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing Evacuation of East Prussia
Current proposals and discussions A discussion about minimizing terminological ambiguity has begun.
Awards and honors Blnguyen has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his efforts in improving the quality of articles related to Vietnamese military history, including the creation of numerous A-Class articles. Woodym555 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his outstanding work on topics related to the Victoria Cross, notably including the creation of featured articles, featured lists, and a featured topic. For their outstanding efforts as part of Tag & Assess 2007, Bedford, TomStar81, and Parsival74 have been awarded the gold, silver, and bronze Wikis, respectively.
Tag & Assess 2007 Tag & Assess 2007 is now officially over, with slightly under 68,000 articles processed. The top twenty scores are as follows: 1. Bedford — 7,600 2. TomStar81 — 5,500 3. Parsival74 — 5,200 4. FayssalF — 3,500 5. Roger Davies — 3,000 6. Ouro — 2600 7. Kateshortforbob — 2250 8. Cromdog — 2,200 9. BrokenSphere — 2000 9. Jacksinterweb — 2,000 9. Maralia — 2,000 12. MBK004 — 1,340 13. JKBrooks85 — 1,250 14. Sniperz11 — 1100 15. Burzmali — 1000 15. Cplakidas — 1000 15. Gimme danger — 1000 15. Raoulduke471000 15. TicketMan — 1000 15. Welsh — 1000 15. Blnguyen — 1000 Although the drive is officially closed, existing participants can continue tagging until January 31 if they wish, with the extra tags counting towards their tally for barnstar purposes. We'd like to see what lessons can be learned from this drive, so we've set up a feedback workshop. Comments and feedback from participants and non-participants alike are very welcome and appreciated.
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Image copyright problem with Image:GG10 bookcover.jpg

Image Copyright problem

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Category redirects

I see that you re-inserted the "#REDIRECT" directive that my bot removed from Category:1632 series templates sub-templates. The bot has now removed it again. The reason for this is that category redirects don't work as you might expect. Suppose Category:Foo bar is a redirect to Category:Fubar. If someone mistakenly puts "[[Category:Foo bar]]" at the bottom of an article, the wiki software will not list that article on the correct category (Fubar). Instead, the article will appear on the redirect page, but since it is a redirect, users won't ever see it unless they specially request it. Therefore, we use "soft redirects" by means of the {{category redirect}} template, instead of the built-in "hard" redirect feature, on category pages. --Russ (talk) 17:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi R'n'B! Actually, your BOT isn't working the way I supposed, and disposed of nearly a year back... but that's one wiki-weakness, I guess!

re: Old Discussion here... but start by reading the short section above...
   IMHO, This should have been SOP long ago now as a result of most all CFD discussions and so forth involving merges and renaming,... and if you're running the BOT now, you need be aware the system software will be supporting (If it doesn't already) such redirects... they are badly needed on the commons for example. The wrench in the works is RobertG's departure. He'd sent me a url to the BOT, but I was in no situation to take over last spring/summer... I was about to have the place remodeled, which took until last week... meaning I've been working off only my laptop in the iterim.

• More to the point, regardless of where the "listed" article occurs, if one navigates using the category link, one gets the to page I wanted them at... note the category name in question is a spelling variant... call it a "memory patch" for me too-fast approaching senility.

• In any event, if you stop defeating such, there's the arguments and benefits laid out as to why you ought to leave such! Cheers! // FrankB 14:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election

The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect nine coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by February 14! TomStar81 (Talk) 03:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Not a typical request

Hey Frank; I am looking for native English speakers to proofread a short fragment, translated by me, of a novel by my favourite sci-fi Polish author. The fragment is here: User:Piotrus/Sandbox/Literature_translations#Black_Oceans_.28fragment.29. Perhaps you'd like to check it out? Take care, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Many kudos, how are you enjoying it? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 04:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Ahem, enjoying the "different tasking" more than the meat, if you know what I mean. More later. Getting there. // FrankB 04:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind this is an excerpt from the book. Winni does not appear in it elsewhere, it is an interesting 'slice-of-life' / 'stuff in the background' / interlude' for the rest of the book. Jacek Dukaj is commonly 'accused' of having too many great ideas :) He invents stuff and uses them only in short stories or even tinier excerpts like this, stuff that others would be happy to develop into a book if not a series :) And yes, there is some technobabble; most of which is explained elsewhere in the books, but Dukaj has the habit of inventing much of terminology for his worlds, which can be a b**** in translation (I had to email him to ask for explantions for some of the abbreviations :>). PDP, for the record, stands for this. And yes, it's years, which is indeed somewhat out of place, I would change it for 'years ago'. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

PDP, needs annotated, with {redirectstohere}... tho' that makes it make some sense (now youse tell me! <G>). Hope I didn't introduce any spelling issues... was off firefox, and it keeps me honest! In any event, you need a better sex life or something! Me, I'm a figment of yer imagination... I'm on a wiki-break! Cheers // FrankB 02:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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Rebooting WikiProject Fictional series

Hello...WikiProject Fictional series is in the process of getting a new start by attracting task forces. I am currently getting things set up for this and other project building areas. Please stop by and take a look. Your suggestions will be appreciated. - LA @ 01:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• OK thanks. Long time no see! Belated Happy New Year! Mainly missing in RL just now, but I'll look in some time this week. // FrankB 21:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of Template:Category redirect2

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