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Thank you. MacAddct1984 ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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KeyScan Inc

Hello there, what I would recommend is starting a new page on KeyScan Inc here: Special:Mypage/KeyScan Inc That way you can continue to edit and work on it without fear of it being deleted. When you feel it's ready for Wikipedia, you can easily transfer it over to the mainspace. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. -- MacAddct1984 ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:59, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello Macaddct1984, took your advice and set up new page. Would it be possible for you to review and comment? Thanks --OR 22:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid it still may fail the test for notability for an organization. At the moment you have a scattering of reviews for one product and a lawsuit against the company that was thrown out. The article also reads a bit like an advertisement, using some non-neutral words like "innovative" and "This results a space saving device with increased functionalty, thus streamlining and shortening paper handling process." All this sounds like a review of the product, rather than a mere description of it. Overall, I afraid you'll have a difficult time establishing notability. (You can reply here, I'll check your page for changes) -- MacAddct1984 ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I also took a look; the PC mag review is good enough to pass speedy deletion, but the question is whether it would survive AfD. And the comments above about promotional wording are correct. As for the others, I'm moving here my comments from my talk p. And the references need to show the title of the source, as well as the title of it, so people can immediately judge the reliability.

1. Klevan, Alan; Correia, Jared (2009). "Hardware That Automates Routine Office Tasks Supercharge Your Law Office for Power and Portability". American Bar Publication.
2. Petro, Nerino J. (2009). "A combination keyboard-document scanner packs a lot of punch into one package. It could solve cost and desktop space problems for some law offices". Volume 35 Number 2.
3. Dr. Emmott, Larry (2010). "That means no desk space sacrificed to a scanner, no leaving your chair to trudge across the office to scan a document then running back to save it to the proper chart". Emmott on Technology.
4. Stone, David (2007). "Some ideas are so intriguing that they refuse to die even if their early incarnations do. One such concept is combining a scanner with a keyboard". PC Magazine.
5. "Award for only PC to have the built in color scanner". VHXN.COM. 2009.
6. Brandon, John (2011). "A Keyboard With a Built-in Scanner". INC Magazine.
7. McGann, Kevin (2010). "KeyScan, Inc., in a patent infringement case obtained a favorable claim construction ruling".

(OR 05:45, 19 February 2012 (UTC))

Comments:

1. incidental mention of the product. Useless as a ref.
2. a full review, but unless the product is specifically aimed primarily at the legal market, a review in a purely legal journal like aba newsletter has relatively little authority. But usable.
3. minor 1 para review; they have been sometimes used, but have little weight.
4. A full clearly independent review in PC Mag. Such reviews by itself goes very far to showing notability . With another such, I consider it shows it.
5. Minor 2 para review.The title on the p. was "Keyscan KS810 – World’s First Keyboard With Inbuilt Scanner !". It doesn't currently mention "award"
6. The link didn't work, but searching found it at the same site. Inc. reviews can be a good source, but this is a minor 1 para review [1]
7. not usable. You would need reviews in news sources to show the case was significant, not just that the attorney listed it on his CV. (I think he did because he did think it significant, but that's a very indirect argument) DGG ( talk ) 16:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again for your advise Macaddct1984, Erased the “advertizing” language but still kept the word “novel” as this is the language to show “new” -that certain invention does not fall into other already known categories or products. When for example in image scanner certain types of scanners are mentioned such as hand held scanner or in input device computer keyboard is solely typing device, the integrated keyboard and scanner is not even though it provides multiple ways of input at the same time through single compact device. The wording “integrated” seems like no brainer but it really isn’t. Multifunction Printer or All-in- one printer is a valid article while it features all the functionalities that exist in the imaging keyboard such as Scan /Fax /Email/Copy/OCR/ Document (local, network & cloud) Storage features/functions. See Lexmark ; ABBYY; I.R.I.S. Group

Additional facts: On 1996 Compaq, NMB and Visioneer had such product released to the market but had to withdrew from the market due to KeyScan patents then pending (computer Business Review Compaq for some reason the CBR link is blacklisted and in http://www.thefreelibrary.com/NMB+and+Visioneer+introduce+scanning+keyboard+to+OEMs+and+The...-a018397325

The product which is based on the mentioned inventions has indeed gained significant independent coverage through the past years (some of them cited and, if needed or recommended, can be erased).

What else can we do to have this articled? --OR 19:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)