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September 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Florence House has been reverted.
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Florence House

It is important to understand, first of all, that Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines aren't about whether we approve or disapprove of the reasons why any given topic might be notable; they're solely about whether there are sufficient sources out there about the topic to demonstrate that (a) it's relevant and of interest to an international audience, and (b) the information included in the article is accurate. So it's not appropriate to draw a parallel to the JetsGo flight attendant, the way you did in the AFD discussion — because our inclusion guidelines aren't about the moral worthiness of what any given topic does, but about the volume of media coverage (newspapers, magazines, books, etc.) that any given topic receives without regard to whether that coverage is happening for "good" or "bad" reasons.

This is not to suggest that it's impossible for topics of primarily local notability to qualify for articles on here, because it's not — but it is a lot harder than it is for topics which can be demonstrated to have received national or international coverage. The question isn't one of whether the organization is doing worthy work, or of whether it's important to Portland, but of whether you can present a convincing case that it's a relevant topic for people outside of Portland to know about. Don't picture your audience as being someone who lives down the street from you and already knows the same things you do — picture someone who lives in Singapore, and try to write an article that explains why that person should care about Florence House. Has it received coverage outside of Portland's own local media, has it won a national award for best charitable organization, is there well-sourced background on Portland's homelessness problem being somehow unique compared to other cities, is Florence House run on a new and innovative model of charitable governance, that sort of thing.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 21:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, if there's actually been a documentary made about the house, while you're right that it's not technologically possible to directly include the actual film itself in the article, there's no reason why you couldn't cite the film as a reference (or at least mention in the article that it exists). Although we obviously like web-based references whenever possible, so that the sources can be consulted quickly and easily, it's not a requirement that references be available on the internet. We can reference to the hard copies of newspapers, books, magazines, documentary films, radio programs and the like, as long as we provide enough information about the source (publication date of a newspaper or magazine article, ISBN number of a book, etc.) that someone who does want to consult the original source knows how and where to find it. Bearcat (talk) 01:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Bearcat. I had tried to cite it but probably did it incorrectly. I'm learning. I'll try again. Thanks! This is definitely helpful! Feetplanted (talk) 01:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Florence House (contd)

Hey, FP, I answered your message with a very short reply, you can see it here --JHvW (talk) 20:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)--JHvW (talk) 03:55, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Florence House for deletion

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Graywalls (talk) 04:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)