FernGrid
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editHi FernGrid! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
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Happy editing! :Jay8g [V•T•E] 03:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Jay8g [V•T•E] 03:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining, @Jay8g! I am sorry for any trouble I caused.
- On Nemat Sadat, @NinaLuciaUsername added a section documenting Sadat's public comments on Jews, the Holocaust, Ukraine, and Hamas.
- Then @DemetrioVaspucci, a brand new Wikipedian (like me), deleted that entire section, asserting that "X is not a source". My understanding is that a biographical page can use X as a source when the tweets belong to the subject of the page and are cited to illustrate the subject's own views.
- My edit (which you reverted) was simply to undo the deletions that @DemetrioVaspucci made. I was surprised that a new Wikipedian with zero edits had been permitted to delete a well-sourced section of a page. I was surprised that you did not revert @DemetrioVaspucci's changes but did revert my reversion of those changes.
- Sadat has posted on X and on Instagram his view that Jews falsified the Holocaust, were historically thrown out of dozens of countries for their 'crimes' , and were responsible for 9/11. These are uncontrovertibly antisemitic conspiracy theories according to the Wikipedia pages on antisemitism. Sadat continues to post unqualified support for Hamas, its leaders, and its attacks, and to call for Zionist Jews to be made to "repent and repay for the atrocities that they have subjected upon humanity". He has addressed other X users simply as "Jew" when confronting them on tweet threads.
- I do not think it makes sense for Sadat to have a Wikipedia page that describes him as a human rights activist and documents his career in great detail but does not mention the aspects of his activism that include praise for Hamas and trafficking in conspiracy theories.
- How many other biographical Wikipedia pages tell us that the subject "never felt entirely at home in the United States" but decline to tell us that the subject tweets regularly about how Ukraine is trying to expel its Christian citizens and replace them with Jews? FernGrid (talk) 03:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)