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- Thank you very much for the clarification.FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 16:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
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editFlaviusFunderburke, welcome. Glad to see that you've registered an account! Jweiss11 (talk) 18:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Formatting coaching tree sections:
editA few points of style on the coaching tree sections you are adding/expanding:
- Year ranges should be punctuated with an endash (–), not a hyphen (-). See WP:DASH for more on that.
- For current tenures, "present" should not be capitalized.
- When noting college football programs in lists and tables, the standard is just to display the short name, not the fight name, so simply "Oregon", not "Oregon Ducks" or "Oregon Webfoots". And be sure to link to Oregon Ducks football, not Oregon Ducks.
Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 19:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I'll work on that. Sorry you have to clean up after me.FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 19:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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Coaching tree suggestions
editIf you remain interested in coaching trees, consider: (a) Amos Alonzo Stagg, Walter Camp, George Halas, Bear Bryant, Frank Leahy, or Hayden Fry, who don't have trees currently, or (b) Pop Warner, Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, Tom Osborne, Lou Holtz, Jess Neely, Bud Wilkinson, and Frank Beamer whose trees seem to be in need of attention. Cbl62 (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- FWIW: Few of us like to be told what to do, and the suggestion above was meant purely in the spirit of good faith and not in any way to dictate how you should be spending your time. Cbl62 (talk) 20:33, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I only saw both messages so no offense taken. Stagg would need its own page. He's 1st Gen under Camp for chrissakes. FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- If anyone deserves a coaching tree, it's Stagg. Branches from Stagg include Fritz Crisler, Jesse Harper, Hugo Bezdek, Clarence Herschberger, Nelson Norgren, Harlan Page, Frederick A. Speik, Walter S. Kennedy, Walter Steffen, John Webster Thomas, Ralph H. Young, Tony Hinkle, Shorty Ellsworth, Wayne Hardin, Mysterious Walker, Ivan Doseff, Paul Stagg, and Amos Alonzo Stagg Jr., to name a few. Cbl62 (talk) 22:06, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Also, 1985 Iowa Hawkeyes football team#Future head coaches gives a head start on a Hayden Fry tree. Fry's mid-1980s coaching staff (Bob Stoops, Bill Snyder, Barry Alvarez, Kirk Ferentz, etc.) may be one of the most impressive of all time. Cbl62 (talk) 22:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Yes that is. Sources galore for that too. Up there with Jim Mackenzie at Oklahoma (a random one I worked on that turned out to be loaded holy smokes). TBH though, I'm first waiting to resolve the outstanding issue on the talk page. Waiting to hear from JWeiss primarily. That will go a long way to determine if I even want to continue being involved in this community--if its open to new ideas and participants or if I am the outsider in a fiefdom of small-town southern sheriffs. I take you at your word, but if he's going to immediately just start undoing what I've already done, whos to say a new consensus later on will similarly revert my work. This isn't diction in an article, this is substantive contributions. If they aren't welcome, and much more importantly, if JWeiss and others don't show any willingness or spirit to compromise, and instead demand a my way or the highway approach under the guise of consensus, then this is absolutely not something I want to keep doing. FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 22:23, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is nobody's fiefdom. It operates by consensus which sometimes goes against one's personal interests. I had that happen to me a number of times in my early years here (2007, 2008), and it takes time to get accustomed to it. That said, I've spent a ton (probably multiple tons) of time over the last decade trying to enhance coverage of areas of interest (principally baseball, American football, and historic architecture) and have found it to be immensely rewarding. There's so much left to accomplish here, I hope you'll consider sticking around whichever way the "coaching tree" debate concludes. Cbl62 (talk) 00:08, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Yes that is. Sources galore for that too. Up there with Jim Mackenzie at Oklahoma (a random one I worked on that turned out to be loaded holy smokes). TBH though, I'm first waiting to resolve the outstanding issue on the talk page. Waiting to hear from JWeiss primarily. That will go a long way to determine if I even want to continue being involved in this community--if its open to new ideas and participants or if I am the outsider in a fiefdom of small-town southern sheriffs. I take you at your word, but if he's going to immediately just start undoing what I've already done, whos to say a new consensus later on will similarly revert my work. This isn't diction in an article, this is substantive contributions. If they aren't welcome, and much more importantly, if JWeiss and others don't show any willingness or spirit to compromise, and instead demand a my way or the highway approach under the guise of consensus, then this is absolutely not something I want to keep doing. FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 22:23, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Also, 1985 Iowa Hawkeyes football team#Future head coaches gives a head start on a Hayden Fry tree. Fry's mid-1980s coaching staff (Bob Stoops, Bill Snyder, Barry Alvarez, Kirk Ferentz, etc.) may be one of the most impressive of all time. Cbl62 (talk) 22:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- If anyone deserves a coaching tree, it's Stagg. Branches from Stagg include Fritz Crisler, Jesse Harper, Hugo Bezdek, Clarence Herschberger, Nelson Norgren, Harlan Page, Frederick A. Speik, Walter S. Kennedy, Walter Steffen, John Webster Thomas, Ralph H. Young, Tony Hinkle, Shorty Ellsworth, Wayne Hardin, Mysterious Walker, Ivan Doseff, Paul Stagg, and Amos Alonzo Stagg Jr., to name a few. Cbl62 (talk) 22:06, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I only saw both messages so no offense taken. Stagg would need its own page. He's 1st Gen under Camp for chrissakes. FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
I did my best to find a compromise. Sadly my spirit of compromise was not engaged and met halfway. This isn’t worth it. Good luck accomplishing all you have to. I hope re,icing coaching trees doesn’t set you back. FlaviusFunderburke (talk) 01:53, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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