Fred Biggin

I have created my first page - "The Greeks (book)".

Some things haven't worked out:

1. The title shouldn't have (book) after it on this page - that was for disambiguation only.

2. I worked out how to do block quotes, but the citation number appears a line below instead of against the end of the text.

3. Under the heading "Chapters" all the chapters are along the same line, instead of vertical (as I inserted them). Putting in Returns after each hasn't helped.

I'll probably expand the article, but want to get this stuff right first.

I'd be grateful for any help - thanks.

Fred Biggin (talk) 11:40, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Fred. As far as I can tell, you haven't yet created a page - aside from the above message, the only edit made by this account to date is this edit to the sandbox (which has since been cleared, as the sandbox is for test purposes only). Unless you created the article using aonther account (and I can't find it if you did), I'm afraid it looks as though your work has not been saved. I suggest you try recreating the page in a userspace draft, such as User:Fred Biggin/The Greeks.

In direct response to your questions above:

1. The correct title would probably be just The Greeks (currently a redirect), but you'd need to add a hatnote to direct people to Greeks (finance).
2. Without an example it's difficult to see the exact problem, but if you're using a citation for a blockquote, it needs to go inside the <blockquote> tags, not after them.
3. Wikipedia markup doesn't recognise newlines - for a vertical list, either user asterisks for bullets:

* one

* two

* three

which renders as:

• one
• two
• three

or hashes for a numbered list:

# one

# two

# three

which gives:

1. one
2. two
3. three

I hope this is helpful - feel free to drop me a line on my talkpage if you need further assistance. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:00, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Ways to improve The Greeks (book)

Hi, I'm Yunshui. Fred Biggin, thanks for creating The Greeks (book)!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix - at present, it lauds the book rather heavily, which isn't appropriate in a Wikipedia article. There's also a pressing need for more sources.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

I've got to go offline now, but I've asked User:Tokyogirl79 (a very experienced editor on book-related articles) to take a look when she has time. I'll take another look at it myself tomorrow. It's coming together nicely - thanks for adding a new article and in doing so, improving Wikipedia. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Yunshui 雲‍水 07:06, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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Yunshui 雲‍水 10:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the correction. I'll keep that in mind next time.

Did I "combine published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say" or was that just general advice?

All the best,

Fred Biggin (talk) 14:35, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to The Bulletin, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 01:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC) Hi,

The file is from the album of an 88-year-old woman - she owns it & would own the copyright, as anyone who owned it before - i.e. her parents - would now be dead.

I don't understand the instructions on what I have to do. I want to add very simple information to a Wikipedia page - I have no interest in becoming an IT person, and lack the time to do so.

Can this communication do the trick please?

Thanks Fred Biggin (talk) 11:15, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I've sent the email to the address provided. Thanks again.

Fred Biggin (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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Okay, sorry - I'm still getting the hang of this.

Thanks for the correction.

Fred Biggin (talk) 04:35, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I find this (editing a file) a bizarre way to communicate, when so many easier ways are on offer.

I'm disappointed that the above-discussed photo has been removed, without anyone telling me, even tho I fulfilled the copyright requirements as well as I could understand them.

That said, the instructions were very hard to understand. If you want ordinary people to participate in Wikipedia, you will have to make it less the property of an overly-protective and overly zealous priesthood of editors.

I'm ready to give up on it for these reasons, & I notice from recent articles on WP that I am not alone.

The Da Vinci Code

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