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Verifiable conspiracy theories

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Not only is that an oxymoronic statement, there's no proof of conspiracy there - the refs we have in the article debunk the "Masonic architecture" and "Founding Fathers were all Masons" theories. Saying that politicians are Masons also isn't really a "conspiracy" either. MSJapan (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

  Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Masonic conspiracy theories, you will be blocked from editing. MSJapan (talk) 14:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

"Verifiable" theories

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Generally speaking, verifiable material isn't "conspiracy theory". "So-and-so was a Freemason" is not the same as "Freemasons faked the moon landings" - the latter is a conspiracy theory, the former is a fact. There's no conspiracy when the information isn't hidden, and when a theory is provable, it's no longer a theory. So in my view, there's no such thing as a provable Masonic conspiracy theory. Also, your architecture claim is flat-out wrong; see here, and again, it's not a conspiracy. MSJapan (talk) 15:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Proof of membership is not proof of conspiracy. Somehow it makes a difference if somebody famous is a Mason, but the other 4 million never factor into the equation. You could just as well say there's an Ivy League conspiracy in politics; it's more a function of what will capture the public's imagination.
The politicians on whom we have membership info clearly did not hide their membership, or otherwise we wouldn't know about it. I think all the major American politicians that are verifiably Masons are already on the list. Note that Thomas Jefferson is not verifiable, and neither Bush is a Mason. Clinton was in DeMolay, but never became a Mason. The last President to be a Mason was Ford. Verifiability means a Lodge or Grand Lodge has a record of the member, and there's no such thing as being a member off the books.
So, I don't really think there's anything that fits into your category, but I would suggest giving your argument on the article's talk page before doing anything directly to the article so other people can weigh in on it. MSJapan (talk) 15:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
Well, if we missed a few, by all means add them in to the list, but keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that deals with facts; it is not meant to be an arena for speculation or to state your own research.
However, in that vein of history, it is just as valid to state that the principles of the Declaration of Independence and other founding documents are a byproduct of Enlightenment thinking, just as Freemasonry was, meaning that even if you want to posit a connection, it could be a parallel one that can be tied to the same earlier social/philosophical impetus, as opposed to a direct cause and effect relationship. MSJapan (talk) 16:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Notability of Photo Finish Records

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WikiProject Alternative music Newsletter

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Conspiracy Theories on Masons

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Hello. I think that article has been input by masons themselves, to use the anti article as a meager defence set so to create a weak opposition, which has no credibility at all. If you check my comments on discusson part you can see a minor example of that usage. (cantikadam (talk) 14:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)).Reply

WikiProject Alternative music newsletter

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MSJapan and his devoted editor brigade

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for July 2008

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"We are the best band in the world....modestly the best band in the world." - Darren Middleton
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for August 2008

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"Oh, we've been called an alternative band before. But we eat meat, so I think we're disqualified: chili dogs, corn dogs, Jimmy Dean Sausage Breakfast."- Kurt Cobain
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for September 2008

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"And suddenly the plane dropped to the right, then to the left, and the ground was right there. And all I could think was, Fuck, I didn’t finish "Fix You." That would have been my last thought: I didn’t get that chorus right."- Chris Martin
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for October 2008

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"When we were trying to sell 'This Corrosion' to Steinman, we said it was like the high point of a Borgia disco evening and he went for it. Nobody makes gloriously stupid records anymore."- Andrew Eldritch
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for November 2008

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for December 2008

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for February 2009

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for March 2009

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for April 2009

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"The other day I had these Jehovah's Witnesses come round to my house, and they tried to convince me that the Pope was the Devil's representative on Earth. So I told them that Jesus was the world's first communist. So they left. They were genuinely enraged.'" - Ian Brown
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for May 2009

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"Well, I remember hearing girls behind me in English class talking about turning 18 and being old enough to strip. It wasn't that weird at the time.'" - Brandon Flowers
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for June 2009

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for July 2009

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"I rip off more fuckin' people than anyone in the world. I rip off my own rip-offs." - Jared Followill
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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for August 2009

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter
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"We've been having lots of sex, and we're pregnant with the new baby already. It's vicious! It will have claws, like Freddy Kruger's lovechild.'" - Tom Meighan
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