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Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
I didn't understand that it was due to a template, I learnt that 24 hours after thanks to an explanation given to me at the talk page of the article.
Either someone is entirely banned of wiki for a certain time, either they are not; or why they are just not allowed to add any comment on a talk page. A refusal of editing (when there was no problem when editing on those articles) goes against freedom of speech. Iennes (talk) 07:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23
Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
New year, new scripts. Welcome to the 23rd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering around 39% of our favorite new and updated user scripts since 24 December 2021. That’s right, we haven’t published in two years! Can you believe it? Did you miss us?
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
User:Alexander Davronov/HistoryHelper has now become stable with some bugfixes and features such as automatically highlighting potentially uncivil edit summaries and automatically pinging all the users selected.
To a lesser extent, the same goes for User:PrimeHunter/Search sort.js. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin is a rewrite of Ais's Watchlist Notifier with modern APIs and several new features such as not displaying watchlist items marked as seen (hence the name), not bolding diffs of unseen watchlist elements which doesn’t work properly anyways, displaying the rendered edit summary, proper display of log and creation actions and more links.
Alexis Jazz: Factotum is a spiritual successor to reply-link with a host of extra features like section adding, link rewriting, regular expressions and more.
User:Aveaoz/AutoMobileRedirect: This script will automatically redirect MobileFrontend (en.m.wikipedia) to normal Wikipedia. Unlike existing scripts, this one will actually check if your browser is mobile or not through its secret agent string, so you can stay logged in on mobile! Hooray screen estate!
Deputy is a first-of-its-kind copyright cleanup toolkit. It overrides the interface for Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations for easy case processing. It also includes the functionality of the following (also new) scripts:
User:Elominius/gadget/diff arrow keys allows navigation between diffs with the arrow keys. It also has a version that requires holding Ctrl with the arrow key.
Frequently link to Wikipedia on your websites yet find generating CC-BY credits to be such a hassle? Say no more! User:Luke10.27/attribute will automatically do it for ya and copy the credit to yer clipboard.
User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft, a spiritual successor (i.e. fork) to Evad37's script, with a few bugs solved, and a host of extra features like check-boxes for choosing draftification reasons, multi-contributor notification, and appropriate warnings based on last edit time.
/CopyCodeBlock: one of the most important operations for any scripter and script-user is to copy and paste. This script adds a copy button in the top right of every code block (not to be confused with <code>) that will, well, copy it to your clipboard!
m:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AceForLuaDebugConsole.js adds the Ace editor (a.k.a. the editor you see when editing JS, CSS and Lua on Wikimedia wikis) to the Lua debug console. "In my opinion, whoever designed it to be a plain <textarea> needs to seriously reconsider their decision."
GANReviewTool quickly and easily closes good article nominations.
ReviewStatus displays whether or not a mainspace page is marked as reviewed.
SpeciesHelper tries to add the correct speciesbox, category, taxonbar, and stub template to species articles.
User:Opencooper/svgReplace and Tol's fork replaces all rasterized SVGs with their original SVG codes for your loading pleasures. Tell us which one is better!
ArticleInfo displays page information at the top of the page, directly below the title.
/HeaderIcons takes away the Vector 2022 user dropdown and replaces it with all of the icons within, top level, right next to the Watchlist. One less click away! There's also an alternate version that uses text links instead of icons.
The way the person who complained about me was counting the reverts seemed unfair.
I had made a few saves while editing the page, refining my own previous edits. As far as I could tell, nobody was undoing my work in between. To me this seems like it should count as just one revert? The revert thing is supposed to stop edit wars, so modifying my own previous stuff doesn't seem relevant?
But the person who complained pointed to different steps of my edit and called them separate "reverts" (in at least one of those cases the resemblance was coincidental matching to a version I had never seen, but we already covered that not counting).
The way this comes up is, on a couple of pages I'm working on, it looks like a lot of content has been removed, and I think some should be restored.
Without the revert rule, the sensible careful way to do that, which would cause the least problems to other editors, would be to re-add the missing stuff carefully a tiny bit at a time. Checking as I go to make sure the references are good enough, checking the other pages that it links to are right, etc.
It would be easiest to save as I go, for each sentence or table row or other unit of content that seems worthy of restoring. But by the definition the complainant used, this is numerous separate "reverts" and thus forbidden? But this doesn't seem like the point of that role?
I could copy the articles to my user space, carefully re-add things there, and then copy paste my user space version over the live version as one giant mega revert. But for a page that's fairly active, that would mean having to carefully avoid over-writing edits that happened while I was working on it in my user space. Re-integrating the versions seems like creating an extra headache, which might not even be needed if the complainant counting my "save as you go" edits as separate reverts was not the way the rule is supposed to work?
You seemed to have fair and balanced stance on it, so you seemed like a good person to ask.
Well there is a provision that A series of consecutively saved reverting edits by one user, with no intervening edits by another user, counts as one revert. (at WP:3RR), which makes sense. But if there are intervening edits, how would you distinguish someone making one revert split across multiple edits, or making multiple reverts? The point of WP:3RR or WP:1RR is to be an easy to enforce bright-line rule, so the definition of revert has to be as clear as possible. Galobtter (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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Latest comment: 9 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion
There was nothing inappropriate in my opinion. My experience is that these RFAs are consistently sanitized to sideline the opposition. We should not be doing that. The editor who made the post has listed "retired" on their talk page, likely as a result of your attempt to hide their comments. Lightburst (talk) 03:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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The link actually seems to include a sharing token that allows me to read the article, while I can't read the article through the DOI link. Galobtter (talk) 04:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh, that introduces a whole layer of complications that I didn't expect. Does putting it into a Wikipedia article count as "for non-commercial, personal use"? I assume that most people would rather be tracked than pay for the article.
Well it says "non-commercial, personal use" is encouraged, but that "the shareable links can be posted anywhere". I see this article that talks about this confusion. Don't see any issues with using the link though, other than the tracking. Galobtter (talk) 04:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Sorry my bad wording, I meant the link was tied to those organizations that subscribed to the journal according to this SharedIt Information Sheet For LibrariansFor all journals included in SharedIt, on the webpages of research articles to which your organisation has subscription access, logged-in individuals will see a ‘Share’ or ‘Share article’ option..., so not sure which organization belongs to that tracking ID inside that URL Link to that document, and I'm not sure if's belongs to WikiMedia foundation, otherwise that would probably be freeloading from another organization without their permission. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 03:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Well the point of the share link, as far as I can tell, is to share to people not in the organization, without needing any permissions. Galobtter (talk) 04:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
WikiWednesday is back this month! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, with an online-based participation option also available. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
Latest comment: 8 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hi. Me being curious: the Palestinians have had a state declared twice, once by the PLO from Tunisia in the 80s, I believe, and once recently, by the PA, with many, many countries recognising it, but not those who arguably matter most, Israel (the occupier), the US + UK + France (UN SC veto), Germany and most if not all of the EU states. That means: no matter what one wishes for, a State of Palestine doesn't exist, not de facto, and arguably de jure either. Claiming they have one can be somewhere between a joke in poor taste & counterproductive: so what's then the struggle all about.?
So, that being said: how does it make sense to place the illegal Israeli settlement of Beit El in "Country: Palestine", with a nice little flag and all? 'Cause making sense should matter. I'm not talking about stopping or blocking disruptive microstate fans who mistake Wiki for their own private sandbox. I mean making sense and informing the user - the only justification we're sticking around here for.
We have several options: Palestinian territories, Israeli-occupied territories, just West Bank, Area B (or ist it C?) come to mind. I'm certainly not the type to suggest Judea and Samaria, except for indicating the de facto, illegal, Israeli admin. district actually taking care of their needs (the occupation has its territorial tools).
Thank you for clarifying this big question, which never stopped stunning me. It's a 100% honest question. So thanks and keep up the good work! Arminden (talk) 23:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! But now I'm confused: at Beit El I had already amended your bot's edit, so where else shall I check? 'Cause if you reverted to some opposite POV version, like "Israel 🇮🇱", it's also wrong :)) Can of worms, I know, don't tell me... Arminden (talk) 13:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Tue March 5: Wiki Gala NYC
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The event will feature lightning talks and a Wiki-fashion show, for which you are encouraged to dress in your finest Wikimedia clothing and accessories (bags, buttons, even books), or clothing connected to the topics you edit on wiki projects.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
Latest comment: 7 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:
I have decided to reach out anonymously due to the controversial aspect of this request, but I am asking that you seriously reconsider and investigate this user.
Their edit history indicates that they have made over 4,700 edits in the span of two months, and further the edits show classic signs of gaming Wikipedia's edit system.
1. This "new user" immediately demonstrated knowledge of how to use tools on wikipedia as well as policies. For instance using XFD Closer, Draft moving, and ONE DAY after creating his account, he voted in an AfD with a diff that reads "The page in question clearly did not show any sign of notability. No notable alumni or any significant achievement as a school. Simple put that it fails WP: ORG." This "new user" is not new to Wikipedia at all.
2. The user engages in frequent draftification, tagging, and deletion nominations-- activities that experienced editors typically engage in..
3. This user's edit history indicate frequent periods of a rapid successions of edits. From early edits up until recent, the user has engaged in segmented editing to increase number of edits per subject.
I am also going to tag DanCherek who pointed out edits that were made to game the system on the users talk page.
The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
Arbitration
An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
Miscellaneous
Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Additionally, you are invited to City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon at the New York City College of Technology Library in Downtown Brooklyn! Join us in person on April 11th to learn about these great new materials at City Tech Library; to learn about editing Wikipedia; and to help increase representation of LGBTQIA individuals and issues online. All are welcome, new and experienced!
Interested in attending, but not a CUNY student or faculty? Please get in touch; we'll help you navigate City Tech building security. Email Jen: jennifer.hoyer18 (at) citytech.cuny.edu.
Latest comment: 6 months ago10 comments3 people in discussion
Hello, hope you had a wonderful Easter weekend. Messaging you to see if there was any chance your "articles/pages by lint count" bot reports could ignore the new "night-mode-unaware-background-color" non-lint tracking "category" like you did (I assume) for the similar non-lint tracking annoyancecategory, "Large Tables"? Articles by lint has gotten a bit too fluffy with all top 1000 pages reporting a solid 22+ errors, when they actually only have at most, 2 missing end tags, or are any fresh catches of the day with other errors/more than 2 errors. Same with pages by lint count, but those were still a healthy 42+ errors, so those displaying here are still easy to know which need addressing. Thanks for considering, Zinnober9 (talk) 02:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I second this request. Thanks for taking it on if you have time. If you do not have time, can you please provide the SQL query that generates this report? – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Nice. That was my plan if I could get my hands on the query. That new template is a brilliant addition to reporting. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Beautiful, thank you so much! The only odd thing (and I was seeing this the other day as well but thought it might have been a hiccup related to the nightmode addition) is that I'm seeing is the Lint Links on Wikipedia:Linter/reports/Pages by Lint Errors are all going to nonexistant pages like this:
Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Latest comment: 5 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
This special WikiWednesday will feature a welcome session and beginning of a listening tour by the newly appointed executive director of Wikimedia NYC, the first staff member leading our local non-profit.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
Meeting info:
You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Hacking Sunday at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well! The event runs for the whole day, though you are welcome to come by for as little or as long as you'd like.
A documentary filmmaker will be in attendance, working on Rabbit Hole, which aims to document Wikipedia's community to showcase how our network tackles important questions about how history is recorded. They will be in attendance to film snippets of this gathering for the documentary. It is completely optional to be a part of the film and there will be protocols in place if you wish to not be filmed. If there are any questions about the filming please reach out to the filmmaker, Meg Vatterott (meg.vatterott@gmail.com).
This is a sequel event to the 2023 Governors Island Wiknic and will feature a workshop led by AfroCrowd at the ArtCrawl Harlem house. We'll also encourage collaboration for wiki-coverage of ArtCrawl Harlem's current exhibition at Governors Island.
All are welcome, new and experienced!
Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide sandwiches for everyone, and maybe some NYC pizza too, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Wikipedia.
Latest comment: 4 months ago4 comments3 people in discussion
There's an issue with the Linter reports today. I noticed that they were counting high yesterday, and today they timeout (600 sec) when manually updated. They were all counting high, and I checked a few of the top pages and compared the counts to their page information lint counts, and they varied wildly, typically 21 or so higher than the actual. I know for a fact that we have the article space errors down to 2 errors max per article (barring any daily flareup), and all 1000 entries displaying were all claiming 21+, which is thankfully not true.
Do you know why they were counting high? I'm not aware of a new error type, but realize that is a possible answer.
I see there's now a lag on server 1, but there wasn't any this morning when the issue was occurring, so not sure if they are connected or not. The owner of the bot used to do the updating, SD0001 is not the person to contact. Contacting you since you set these reports up to be done by their bot. If you aren't the person to contact, who should I contact, or shall I just do a public post on WP:LINT's talk page? And do you know what's up with the count being off and the report updating timing out (assuming the server 1 lag is unrelated)? Thanks, Zinnober9 (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Not sure why this is case. Probably best create a post at WT:LINT, someone should be able to debug it and anyone can change/fix the query. Galobtter (talk) 20:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
This appears to be a toolforge (partial?) outage problem. The reports will presumably fix themselves when toolforge comes back 100%. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC
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This special online-only WikiWednesday will be dedicated to the Wikimedia Movement Charter referendum, and also to exploring future options of other online-centric events for our Wikimedia NYC chapter.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
Meeting info:
Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the inaugural event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Civic Hall! All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend.
Latest comment: 3 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
After the ＲＩＩＪ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Newly maintained scripts
Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide a little something for everyone, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Wikipedia.
Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
Latest comment: 1 month ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Galobtter. May I ask you to lift my topic ban? Since July 2023 I did not edit any Azerbaijani or Armenian topic related articles. I did not participate in any edit warring and did not make any destructive edits. I want to improve Azerbaijani related articles in English Wikipedia so I want my topic ban to be lifted. I will not participate in edit warring and will try to resolve any potential disputes on talk pages. Interfase (talk) 19:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
You have made less than 50 edits since your last appeal - that’s not enough of a track record to grant an appeal based on. Galobtter (talk) 03:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting (plus Latin music event on Sep 21!)
Latest comment: 1 month ago1 comment1 person in discussion
The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect three board seats, half of the elected seats on the board. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats.
We will also focus on the Wikimedia NYC Strategic Plan, our Financial Report, and Annual and Monthly event teams for the coming year.
Election info:
To run for election or to vote, you must be a dues-paying member of Wikimedia New York City, having renewed in the past 12 months.
Voting will be both online, via emailed ballots from the ElectionBuddy service, and in-person.
The poll will be open for the 48 hours between 8pm EDT on September 23 and 8pm EDT on September 25.
For additional information, please consult the Election FAQ.
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