User talk:Ganeshk/Archive 9

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towns not created

Thanks for the tip -- Lost 08:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

OK got it. Sorry for the last one. Please undo if there is a way to do so -- Lost 16:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Indian towns CSV

Hi Ganesh, can you send me the CSV file so that I'll ask Tamil Wikipedians to transliterate the titles? Once that's done you can run your bot in Tamil Wikipedia, no? -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 10:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the file. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 14:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

punjab stubs

Hi Ganesh, I've been disambiguating links to Punjab lately, and while I hate to point fingers, your Punjab town stubs are giving me a lot of grief! I would say about 75% of the links I have yet to disambiguate are pages created by Ganeshbot. I'll fix the pages that are already articles, but could you please fix the links in Ganeshbot's sandbox? I'm sure you can appreciate that as Ganeshbot creates more of these articles, the list of links pointing to a disambiguation page gets longer.

By the way, I think you're doing a great job with your bot, the articles are nice and informative. I don't wish to come across as negative; just that disambiguation pages are such a bore... :) Have a great day, — riana_dzasta • t • c 14:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks! — riana_dzasta • t • c 15:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I know, but I need to fill in my many hours between Uni lectures, somehow. ;) — riana_dzasta • t • c 17:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Super. Cheers! — riana_dzasta • t • c 14:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Ganeshbot/sandbox/Nalagarh

Hi Ganesh, even though the above town is in HP, the map shows it in Punjab. Can you please check -- Lost 18:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I will search if there is a more accurate location available. Also thanks for appreciating and lending a hand.. Will start another state once Himachal is complete -- Lost 18:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

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Pusyamitra Sunga

Nichalp, This user has a username of a king, Pusyamitra Sunga, who persecuted Buddists. Is that okay per user name policy. Please advise. - Ganeshk (talk) 23:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Please ignore this. He was already found to be a sockpuppet. - Ganeshk (talk) 00:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Ganesh. Thanks for your attention here. Pusyamitra Sunga emailed me from the same address as User:Subhash bose who I blocked on Friday for personal attacks on Talk:Babri Mosque, and appears to have been used to evade the block and 3rr and more attacks. I have blocked Pusyamitra Sunga indefinitely, as previously the RFCU was "related" as they appeared to be using one account from home and the other from university. You may think of what would be appropriate for the master. Regards and thankyou for your attention in this matter, Blnguyen | rant-line 05:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

of interest

Thought you mind find this MfD of interest. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 22:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

गणेशबाट्!

Hi Ganesh, I notice that Ganeshbot is now a user at Hindi Wiki. Will it have a similar function over there, create Indian town stubs? It would be great if it did. A huge boost to the number of wikified articles. Gizza^{Chat ©} 11:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

IPA

Hi Ganesh,

Can you confirm if the IPA of Kolkata is ['kolkata]? I would also appreciate if you would do the IPA for my name. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the India links. Appreciated!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charukesi (talk • contribs)

Re:Location of Mumbai

(rest of conversation removed) Dab, Now I see the problem, 1.9 em is misaligned on Internet Explorer (looks fine on FireFox) and 2.4em is misaligned on FireFox (looks fine on IE). Do you have suggestions on fixing it? - Ganeshk (talk) 01:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I do. Use an image I just created, Image:Mumbai-main.png:

Problem solved? Or is that took much of a shortcut? Optionally (although this may be a bit deceitful), you can still link the image to Image:India-locator-map-blank.svg. -- joturner 02:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... is that the correct location? Comparing the current image in IE and Firefox, I don't see a significant difference (that was taken in Firefox by the way). -- joturner 02:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay that should be correct (sorry for thinking out loud). -- joturner 02:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool solution! Dab and myself were trying to save space on Wiki. :) Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 03:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope that ten-kilobyte image won't crash the server; that would not be good. -- joturner 03:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

SundarBot

SundarBot is an Interwiki bot written in Python. I just downloaded the code from here and am using it. You could do the same. (I haven't made any big changes as I can't read Python as well as I do Perl. Since you already code in Python, you could improve upon it.) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 05:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Rearranging 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings

So we meet again... Most likely the size of the infobox will not creep into the article once the lead section gets expanded (it really should be). I, of course, won't be doing any expanding now, though, because it's past 2:15am. And I have work tomorrow (sort of). -- joturner 06:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry... I didn't realize you had just created the news event infobox (I thought that had always been there) when I created the terrorist attack infobox. I didn't mean to step on your toes and seem like I was erasing all your work. -- joturner 06:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

As is traditional...

Samsara (talk • contribs) 16:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hinduization of Sikhism

Hi - do check this article out. It has obvious problems, but I'm not sure if it merits an AfD. This Fire Burns Always 14:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protection

I believe the article desperately needs semi-protection. Two other users agree on the talk page. 74.137.230.39 15:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ganeshk,

The vandalism seems to be down at the moment, but there have been several waves of disruptive IP edits that make editing this already Edit-Conflict strewn page extremely difficult. I'm not sure if it warrants semi at the moment, but as there's currently no admin on site, perhaps you could keep an eye on things. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 16:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Scratch that, please protect now. The IPs are making this extremely chaotic. Thanks Tewfik^Talk 16:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Has the marked increase qualified? There have been 3 IP vandals in the last 10 minutes, and thats been a consistent rate for a while. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 17:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Suggestions

Ganesh, may I make some small suggestion regarding the pages created by the bot:

1. Each of those pages contains the {{GR|India}} template, which takes us to the general GR page where we are again directed to the relevant hyperlink, being this. Can we possibly cut this whole trip out, by providing the link as a citation on the page itself? Perhaps something like what I have done on the Mudgal page. Would you be able to accomplish this by running your bot through all the newly created pages?
2. The new pages create wikilinks for "As of 2001" which links to the general 2001 page, which is rather pointless. Perhaps it could be left out.
3. In the infobox, the '(s)' in "District(s)" is superfluous, since no village can lie in two districts. Can we likewise leave that out.

And congratulations on the great work you have done in creating the bot! Awesome technological prowess. Here I have been trying to get the hang of creating maps and even that much I am unable to do! Regards, ImpuMozhi 17:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

HI brother!

Hey ganesh, it is amit from aapkadomain.com +1(214) 329 4766. though it is 100% upto your judgement but I would still request that there should be atleast one Indian .in registrar on wikipedia.. i would be thankfull if you will allow my page to stay.. regards Amit

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Thanks for the automation

Ganesh, Thank you so much for creating an automation for providing the basic details of all the the Indian towns. It is a great saving in time and a valuable set of data. Time can be spared for more creative writing rather than adding standard (but useful) mechanical details. Looking forward to see how it works in Tamil Wikipedia (so far it looks really excellent). Regards, Selva (C.R.Selvakumar from தமிழ் விக்கிபீடியா).

Your response needed

Hi Ganesh, can you reply to this at mine or his page please -- Lost 19:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply -- Lost 19:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation!

Sorry to mess up your system...when I saw the unexpanded stub template text at the end of the article, I thought someone had just mis-coded it. :) Thanatosil 19:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

LOL, yes, I figured out "signing" earlier today, but I was so stunned to see entries on my talk page that I forgot to sign! Thanatosil 20:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Castes and Tribes of the Punjab

Hi. I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.

The facts of the matter are like this:

I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.

I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.

The final categories were:

Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".

Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.

My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:

The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.

However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.

I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.

This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.

As of now, Administrator Shresth has protected the page on my request. He has also asked that the dispute be discussed on the talk page of the template and a consensus be reached. Yourself and anybody else you know who has an interest in the Punjab, please come and express your opinion on the talk page. Even if the Punjab is not your area of interest, the dispute is still an NPOV dispute. So please express your thoughts.

Regards. Rajatjghai 05:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

simplified disputed areas representation

Hi Ganeshk, please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India Maps ^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 10:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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Barnstar!!!

Thank you!! ..and that was my first Barnstar award :)

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Thanks/info

Hi Ganesh, thanks a lot for appreciating. Hopefully, me and Ganeshbot will together make it to many more DYKs :). BTW, I came across a huge list of geographical co ordinates of Indian places. So thought I'd point it out to you. Just replace a with b and so on. [1] -- Lost 16:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Had a pressing deadline...

Hi,

Had a pressing deadline, but had caputed some material from google during coffee breaks and at the end of the day, verified it against other location and rewrote it on Dhondo Keshav Karve Page. Yet to add list of references. I have found email id of great grandson of Maharshi Karve and sent him an email. Would be great if a good quality photograph is available. Chirag 00:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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Another great Ganeshbot stub

On 28 July, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kolachal, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Enjoyed the article. The anon's contribution was gold. Take care -- Samir धर्म 04:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

213.78.16.117

Hi Ganesh, I saw that you just left a message at this guy's talk page. He is spamming too many articles. I have reverted about 5-6, but he is doing it to more -- Lost^(talk) 19:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I have reverted all of his spamming -- Lost^(talk) 19:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for the welcome, Ganeshk.Bardoz 04:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Ganeshk.  Rei-artur  ? 17:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Bot flag

I already had made an order of flag that he was refused. LeonardoGregianin 22:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)