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Kibana as non-notable software?

I was rather surprised by this deletion.

I know and understand the premise for deleting web pages documenting non-notable software, but this seems a bit overreaching in the case of Kibana (note: I am not affiliated with Kibana, Elasticsearch, Elastic.co, or any of their partners).

Kibana is a tool that has been around for some time know, which is regularly maintained. It is also deployed in many enterprise environments. It is isn't non-notable, by any means.

Google shouts back at least 427,000 results for Kibana alone (though these include hits for the Japanese station). The Kibana image on the Docker registry as been downloaded 51,695 times (and this is only a minimal indicator of its total download count, as I wouldn't expect the vast majority of Kibana users to deploy it as Docker containers). The entire ELK stack itself is in use at Wikimedia (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Logstash, though granted that doesn't either guarantee "notability" in itself).


While log management and log analysis may not be the most documented field of sofware and sysadmin, it is a recurrent topic, with some dedicated pages on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_management, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_analysis). A more productive editing or housekeeping would be to flesh out these pages and update them, rather than deleting the page of one of the actors in this area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.177.29.102 (talk) 15:00, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The issue is, those aren't the criteria that Wikipedia uses to assess notability. We need independent coverage in reliable, third party sources. These may exist in this case, but there wasn't any indication of it. GedUK  10:46, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move of Damián Martínez

Please see Talk:Damián Martínez#Requested move 11 August 2015. You imposed move protection last February and I didn't want to perform the technical move until the reason for that can be addressed. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: Hey there. I've replied on the talk page. I didn't apply the move protection, it was already on when I semi protected the editing rights. Ricky81682 applied the move protection in Dec 2014. GedUK  18:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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