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M'Crie surname

Three generations of M'Crie ministers, Thomas M'Crie (both elder and younger) and Charles Greig M'Crie, are best known by their published writings, all of which appeared under the name "M'Crie", despite having been issued by numerous different publishers. They obviously must have been happy with this spelling, though the signature of M'Crie the elder which appears in his son's biography of him does look rather like M^cCrie: https://archive.org/details/lifeofthomasmcri00mcri/page/n9 . Given that these men are best known at the present day through their published writings, why change the orthography just because of what DNB says? Incidentally the more recent Dictionary of Scottish Church History and Theology has all three as "M'Crie", as does Ecclegen: https://ecclegen.com/ministers-mac/#-C . I accept that the apostrophe and superscript "c" are interchangeable, but I still feel you should revert these edits. The other well known Christian author and minister of this period for whom the apostrophe spelling predominates is Robert Murray M'Cheyne--PeterR2 (talk) 19:11, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for this convincing point. I have reverted as you suggest, and there is now a redirection in operation which takes care of my own concern. Geierstein41 (talk) 22:01, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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		For your excellent fillings out of our, in general, rather perfunctory articles on the novels of The Master. Your good work doesn't go unnoticed. --Antiquary (talk) 10:04, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for this encouragement. I plan to work through the novels as other tasks allow. Geierstein41 (talk) 15:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hello Eddie891. I think this page should qualify under 5 '5.The book's author is so historically significant that any of the author's written works may be considered notable. This does not simply mean that the book's author is notable by Wikipedia's standards; rather, the book's author is of exceptional significance and the author's life and body of written work would be a common subject of academic study.' Hogg is an accepted major writer, so even this small work is worth a page to give a bit more than the author page does. It was his first publication, and unlike his other works did not attract reviews when it appeared. That is why I there is no reception section on the page. I could put something in to that effect and mention recent revaluation, but its real significance is in being Hogg's first publication.

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Geierstein41 (talk) 18:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! As I see it, there are two options you have here. I'd agree with you that Hogg is a very notable author. While I cannot speak as to whether Hogg is notable enough to make anything inherently notable, I'll defer to you. The Edinburgh Companion of James Hogg says "His self-published first collection of poems, Scottish Pastorals (1801), received almost no attention." (p. 39)

1. As the article you created stood, the only cited text was "In 1800, most likely August or September, Hogg had time on his hands during a trip to Edinburgh to sell sheep. Aware of his poetic gift—though only one poem of his had so far appeared in print, in The Scots Magazine for 1794—he found a printer's shop next to the market, wrote out 'a poem or two' from memory, and had them printed as a 62-page boooklet." which you could incorporate into Hogg's article.
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@Edie891: This is very helpful. I think the first possibility would be out of proportion for the main Hogg article. That needs some work, which I intend to do before long, but I wouldn't be aiming to make the mentions of individual works more substantial. So I've done a revision in my sandbox which I'll submit for review. This adds a reception section which in this case concentrates on recent discussions, which are on my shelves. Usually I'd be chary of doing this, since for most significant works there is so much material, and attempts to summarise it in Wiki tend to be anecdotal or almost inevitably subjective to some extent. But for the Scottish Pastorals the material is limited, and since there is nothing contemporaneous I am content to make an exception.

I look forward to seeing what you think of the revision.

Many thanks for your help.

Geierstein41 (talk) 11:33, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks: I've removed the links for the overture titles which aren't really necessary anyway.Geierstein41 (talk)

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Chapter summaries

Hi @Geierstein41: I don't think chapter summaries are normal practice. I've not seen that format used anywhere else. Plot is usually the gig. scope_creep^Talk 11:26, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi scope creep Plot summaries vary widely, from the skeletal to the exhaustive (and exhausting). Chapter summaries tend to be more uniform. They are at the least a useful supplement, and for some purposes certainly easier to use. People can use either or both as their needs and preferences dictate. Scott and Hogg have now pretty complete sets of chapter summaries. Hopefully other authors will be so favoured in due course. Ulysses is a particularly prominent example already in existence. Geierstein41 (talk)

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