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Lagrangian coherent structure

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Conflict of interest

Dear Georgehaller,

it appears that there exists a large conflict of interest in your editing of Lagrangian coherent structure, which I discuss on the article talk page. I urge you to read Wikipedia’s policy on conflicts of interest and refrain from referring to your own work and publications in that article in particular and in Wikipedia in general. Do not hesitate to discuss this issue, here on this talk page of directly on the article talk page. Thank you very much. Ariadacapo (talk) 18:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Dear Ariadacapo,

Thanks for your note. This Wikipedia page summarizes all mathematical developments in the detection of Lagrangian coherent structures. As any scientific review, it refers the reader to the relevant articles for more detail. Several of these articles happen to involve me as author or co-author, as you point out. This would be hard to avoid, given that I initiated this field, including coining its name. I have read Wikipedia’s policy on conflicts of interest and could not find an issue with including references to my own papers as well. Perhaps you could be more specific on why you believe that a review of a field should selectively omit references to certain authors. Georgehaller (talk)

The issue is that the citations in this article are overwhelmingly pointing to the work of one person and simultaneously that this same person is the main contributor to the article (the other main contributors to that article are either your co-author or anonymous IPs from the Federal Institute of Technology Zurich). If you have initiated this field, and coined its name, then this puts you in a delicate position with regards to this article. This conflict of interest should not prevent you from contributing to it, but you should be especially cautious: citing oneself carries the risk of losing neutral point of view. Citing exclusively one author carries the risk of giving undue weight. See WP:SELFCITE and WP:SELFPUB.

There are other smaller issues with the article (like jargon and a couple of copyvio illustrations) but they will be sorted progressively. The main problem is that the authors of the article are also the authors of the article references. Please stop making major contributions to this article now. I am sure there are plenty of other topics where you can make great contributions without running into conflict of interest. Thank you. Ariadacapo (talk) 11:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Please note that (1) I did not create this page (2) For years, it remained a one-paragraph page with an imprecise definition to which people (except me) were adding their papers randomly (3) The page was flagged by Wikipedia as one that needs the attention of an expert. I took it upon myself to help out, without removing any of the original references. As you know, anyone at any time can correct any perceived bias on this page. This is a process that takes time and people who care to contribute. Until then, one has to choose between having material written by one person or having no material at all (the earlier Wikipedia flag signaled a preference for the first option). What I have written is largely based on an invited Annual Reviews of Fluid Mechanics article--which was also reviewed by a panel of independent experts.

In any case, you've made your point and I've made mine. I hope for more contributions from a more diverse circle of authors.

OK. Please see WP:EXPERT, especially points 2 and 6 of the advice section. Ariadacapo (talk) 16:01, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Article nominated for deletion

Dear Georgehaller, this is just a notification that I have just nominated Lagrangian coherent structure for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lagrangian coherent structure. Thank you. Ariadacapo (talk) 10:28, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I thought this was settled 7 years ago, ending with an apology from you. What has changed? Georgehaller (talk) 11:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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