Glorthac

Ignatius of Antioch

Look, that anonymous revert was me (wasn't logged in at the time). This is encyclopedia. You can't randomly add a citation. Now if you explain why it's important that Ignatius taught that Jesus is God (perhaps battling sects at the time?), then the quote is justly there. If not, if it's a good quote in your opinion, but has no great encyclopedic value, then notice we have Wikiquotes, where you can easily add your comment of lesser importance. So please improve the article as well, or post to Wikiquotes. Thank you. Happy new year, may God show you His grace. --Paxcoder (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Relation to Jesus? He never saw Jesus, but he is said to be the apostle of st. John. Well perhaps the quote has value in that it can prove Ignatius' orthodox beliefs, but it should need a reason to be in the encyclopedia (now I won't remove it, but you should add more explanation). For example, it's perhaps one of the earliest Christian writings that supports Jesus' deity - eg. preceeding Arianism - but this should be researched and preferably cited when added to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paxcoder (talk • contribs) 08:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

"One out of a thousand"

Good catch. The "only one out of 1000 and two out of 10,000" sync is also mentioned on this page: http://www.jesus8880.com/chapters/gematria/isopsephia.htm

These men, moreover, practice magic and use images, incantations, invocations, and every other kind of curious art. Coining also certain names as if they were those of the angels, they proclaim some of these as belonging to the first, and others to the second heaven; and then they strive to set forth the names, principles, angels, and powers of the three hundred and sixty five imagined heavens. They also affirm that the barbarous name in which the Savior ascended and descended, is Caulacau. ... The multitude, however, cannot understand these matters, but only one out of a thousand, or two out of ten thousand. They declare that they are no longer Jews, and that they are not yet Christians; and that it is not fitting to speak openly of their mysteries, but that it is right to keep them secret by preserving silence. ... They make out the local position of the three hundred and sixty five heavens in the same way as do mathematicians. For, accepting the theorems of these latter, they have transferred them to their own type of doctrine. They hold that their chief is Abraxas; and, on this account, that word contains in itself the numbers amounting to three hundred and sixty five.

Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1.24.5-7: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103124.htm

Most of the original text of the article comes from Wikisource's version of the Dictionary of Christian Biography.

Also, I don't think you're using "Monad" in its correct sense in the Basilideans article. It might be better to keep the original terms. Neither the DCB nor the Catholic Encyclopedia do a very good job of explaining what Basilides' actual system meant in plain English, which is essentially this: the Logos Spermatikos is scattered into the sensible cosmos, where it is the duty of the Gnostics, by whatever means, to recollect these scattered seed-members of the Logos and return them to their proper places (see also the Gospel of Eve). Jesus' Parable of the Sower takes on special significance here. Thus Clement's statement that "Their whole system is a confusion of the Panspermia (All-seed) with the Phylokrinesis (Difference-in-kind) and the return of things thus confused to their own places." —Kramden (talk) 02:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Heraclius

Hi there! I would just like to let you know that I reverted your edit to the Heraclius article as you deleted some information from the article. In your edit summary, you stated that "I can quote ancient sources indicating the Muslims viewed Heraclius as a "shewed and uncircumcised man", not a good Muslim like the wiki page seemed to say". However, you need to procure these sources, show that they are reliable, and disprove the several sources already used in the article that state that Heraclius was viewed favorably by the Muslims in order for the information to be deleted from the article. In the meantime, the information will stay in the article. Sounds good? Happy editing! Laurinavicius (talk) 03:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

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Timothy listed at Redirects for discussion

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Basilides

Please see Basilides and Talk:Basilides -- PBS (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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