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If it makes you feel any better, the Russian wiki article on the 2022 invasion of Ukraine is fairly well written, names the Ukraine as it's own country and and discusses the war crimes committed by Russia. I think it's also worth noting that none of the Wikipedia's have "rules" as such, but guidelines. If most of the writers on their are sympathetic with Ukraine, the guideline to treat it as part of Russia will be ignored. -- ☽☆ NotCharizard (talk) 05:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

The fact that Ukraine is a separate state is a long-term fact. But the fact that it is correct to say "on"(на) or "in"(в) is debatable. 20 years ago there was a Russian rule that "on" can only be said when mentioning the area. And now if you write a question to Google in Russian, how to write correctly. Then the answer appears that supposedly it depends on the established opinion, or nonsense about the fact that it depends on the end of the name of the country. Nowadays, most Russian people say "in Ukraine", but "on Ukraine" - only propagandists in Russian news and those who watch them. There is no page in Russian Wikipedia that would clearly say how to speak correctly, but at the same time, Russian Wikipedia has a rule that does not allow you to write "in Ukraine" in any case. Wikipedia has good authority, so I consider such a rule to be racist, not a mistake. GoldNotGod (talk) 20:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Try writing "в Украине" (in Ukraine) on any page of Russian Wikipedia yourself. - You won't be able to do it, while any other mistakes can be written. GoldNotGod (talk) 20:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Because in standard Russian, it is written as "на Украине", not "в Украине". It is grammar, nothing to do with "racism". It is in the same thing in other Slavic languages such as Polish, Czech, Slovak etc as well as also German, Dutch, and so on. So unless you want to claim that everyone else is racist. Of course dictating what should be said in other languages is nothing new here. Mellk (talk) 00:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Typical Russian... My grandmother, who lived all her life in Russia and was a teacher there, remembers that there was a rule which states that: "на" (on) - in locality was used when referring to regions, cities, villages, vague areas, "в" (in) was used in relation to independent states. And now for some reason in the Russian propaganda Ukraine - "on", and in the non-independent media - "in", I wonder why? Even just asking in Google how to correct - you will not find anything official, there will be just some text noname who say that there are no rules, but allegedly because of some popularity you can say "on Ukraine" or something else nonsense. Why, then, when mentioning Austria, do you say "in"? And in the worst translator, google, even there are two versions of the translation. That you defend the fiction of propagandists who foment national discord is an afterthought, and then what do you say next? Maybe Russian soldiers don't kill civilians? GoldNotGod (talk) 14:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

If you continue harassment I am going to block your account. Ymblanter (talk) 17:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

There is a page there on such rules covering this [1]. And of course many people have complained about this, you can see the talk page there as an example. You have the right to think that it is incorrect, but as it is based on linguistic norms, this will not change anytime soon (or this somehow becomes an exception). I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by making a bunch of complaints on English Wikipedia. Mellk (talk) 22:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

This is completely out of line. Calling it "on Ukraine" was okay in the USSR or in the Russian Empire because it was just a province, but now it is not correct because Ukraine is now a separate state and it is necessary to say it correctly. And in the Russian Wikipedia it is written that supposedly since it is so established it should be written that way - i.e. to say "on Ukraine" is an exception to the rule, which the Russian authorities in 2014 wrote in the textbooks for the sake of propaganda.

Did not I say that I write on the English wikipedia because in the Russian wikipedia - every time I tell them the facts they just ban me. I created 3 accounts and each time I convinced them better and without using aggression, but every time they felt they would get their asses kicked by their government they just deleted everything related to me. GoldNotGod (talk) 01:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Sure, everything which does not agree with your opinion is propaganda. With this attitude, I would not recommend editing the English Wikipedia.I do not think you can contribute constructively here. Ymblanter (talk) 21:55, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Are you a Kremlebot? Just recently, the "Polizei" page on Russian Wikipedia was removed - it was one of the strongest and most influential SS divisions, which had an emblem in the form of a Z. That is, the bots admins in Russian wikipedia don't even hide themselves anymore, they just use their power in propaganda. GoldNotGod (talk) 03:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:GoldNotGod and harassment, at your service. Ymblanter (talk) 18:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

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