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Lalla Ward

I've had to remove the picture of Romana because it is a fair-use image. It cannot be used to illustrate an article about Lalla Ward because a free alternative could be obtained. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 12:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Refs etc

I note your references on your user page. I don't know if you have ambitions to aim for good or featured article at some time, but if so I would avoid fancy stuff like aut or small isbns. Manual of style for refs is to conform with the book, journal and web template style eve n if writing refs manually. Also write journal titles in full, without abbreviations, and italicise book and journal titles. I'm working on White-breasted Nuthatch at present if you're unsure of mos style jimfbleak (talk) 06:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I've done a few GAs and FAs now, so if you have any queries, just ask, or try the project page - there's a list of bird GAs and FAs, and people on the talk page are really helpful. jimfbleak (talk) 07:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Might be an idea to read WP:LEAD, don't link from the bolded text jimfbleak (talk) 08:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid so. Even when the article's finished, before going to WP:FA, I'd run the article pass the project talk page, and then send it to WP:GA or WP:PR first. It is not easy to get FA, and the intermediate steps will hopefully tweak the article for its trial by ordeal. I don't think we have had an auk GA or FA, so there's no ideal template, but there are plenty of bird species FAs that will help you with structure, headings, what should be included etc. A range map is helpful but not obligatory, and I'd suggest looking at the Project page suggestions for section headings jimfbleak (talk) 10:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The headings on Arctic Tern are definitely not standard now, and it looks as if the article hasn't been maintained well - the appearance and adaptation sections would never survive GA or PR, let alone FA. Better to use the WP:BIRDS headings or something similar, since it's likely that they will get changed to them anyway jimfbleak (talk) 15:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

If you need more images, try [| here]

In "Description" what subspecies is being described? Units need to have imperial conversions in parentheses; ranges (units or pages) should have – instead of a hyphen; and numbers should be separated from their units by a non-breaking space   Book refs - some don't have page ranges. jimfbleak (talk) 12:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I've tweaked it a bit too. You need to say the sexes are identical, still needs juvenile appearance, and obviously the calls need more.

OK, revert "becomes" - leave the Alcini bit with me, I'll sort it tomorrow. jimfbleak (talk) 16:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

MoS for images - shouldn't sandwich text between images, also image at the start of a section shouldn't be left-aligned. jimfbleak (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

More thoughts

1. subspecies - are you able to describe the remaining subspecies? Is it worth tabulating the subspecies eg like White-breasted Nuthatch? It’s up to you, but I’d be inclined to list the currently accepted ssp, and then comment on those that are no longer accepted, reversing the emphasis. As written, it leaves the status of the Pacific ssp hanging – they have been proposed, but….
2. Unless you’re planning to extend them, I don’t think the one-paragraph mini-sections under “Reproduction” are a good idea.
3. I’m conscious that I’m breathing down your neck on this article. I won’t be offended if you tell me to let you get on with it. Alternatively, you may want to flag it up on the project page or ask User:Sabine's Sunbird for comments – three seabird FAs jimfbleak (talk) 08:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Just put a message here headed with the article title, saying that you want to get this to GA/FA and would welcome any input. There are several of us with experience preparing article for that, or able to provide resources like maps and diagrams. The target is 50 bird FAs by Christmas! On the image thing, remember that you still have to write a proper lead, and you could put Taxonomy before Description (I often do for just this reason), both of which will push Description down the page jimfbleak (talk) 12:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd do the lead last, it was just a reminder that there would be a bbit more text to push description down jimfbleak (talk) 11:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Common Guillemot

Hi, thanks for the message. The lead looks much better and I think the "intro too short" message can go now. Re: referencing in the lead - there are differing views about this but the consensus seems to be that references in the lead (a) generally shouldn't be necessary as the lead should just summarise facts found elsewhere but (b) for particularly controversial articles, particularly confusing statements, things that will raise eyebrows or things that aren't mentioned elsewhere, a ref is a good idea. Re: yellow-billed guillemots, I think the answer has to be "extremely rare" - I've never seen one, and I'm sure the same applies to most birders I know. The article quotes Tim Birkhead, an ecologist at Sheffield Uni who has done lots of work on Guillemots, and he's said he seen several over the years with partially yellow bill/legs but nothing like the bird shown in the photo in Birding World. I don't mind if you move the references around. Lundy - yes, although I've never been - I must make it over one day. All the best. SP-KP (talk) 09:38, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, that looks fine. SP-KP (talk) 22:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

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If you ever take Guillemot to FAC, the image licences will be carefully scrutinised. The taxobox image and the Farallon image both list a different name for the uploader and the photographer. Although in both cases they are are likely to be the real and wikipedia names of the same person, it might be an idea to get them to make this clear on the image summary. jimfbleak (talk) 10:26, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Ibis

Thanks a ton. That is valuable information ! Shyamal (talk) 02:11, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Filter feeding

I am running through literature around me and can see nothing stating that Avocets are filter feeders. All I find is "sweeping", "scything" and so on through the mud. Shyamal (talk) 13:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

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Common Guillemot

I saw your message about the linking of the article and went to have a look at it to see what could be done to make it pretty, and was impressed how pretty it already looked. You might be able to push it towards GA fairly quickly if you are interested, and I have some more refs (I used to work with this species in California). Good job! Sabine's Sunbird talk 01:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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