Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hi GreenC,
I just want to thank you for all your help you have provided in the past few days on some of my articles. You make some good points about notability and significant coverage. Your assist with my edit requests is also appreciated. You also have a great way with words.
In theory the WaybackMachine keeps crawling dead links over time if they come back alive it picks up automatically. You could test this theory by finding an example previously-dead link and checking the WaybackMachine. -- GreenC15:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 8 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hello, I am NanoLuuke from Wookieepedia. I am reaching out to you because our editing community has expressed concern regarding our own reliance on the Wayback Machine. For context, much like Wikipedia, our own policy requires the inclusion of archival links (with around 1/6th to 1/5th of our 188000+ pages using web citation), and we use massively the Wayback Machine in this regard. Concerns have emerged from the earliest stages of the Hachette v. Internet Archive case, and with the publication of a recent article by the Jacobin, I'm seeing more and more editors worried that we could lose access to the Wayback Machine in the future. While I'm personally not currently feeling the same level of concern as my fellow editors, I do recognize that properly assessing the ongoing issue is a reasonable thing to do, at minima to appease the worried editors, and if worse must come, to prepare whatever steps we will need to circumvent the possible loss of the Wayback Machine's archives. That is why I wanted to reach out to you, since you seems one of the most knowledgeable editors on Wikipedia regarding web archives. I'm interested in your personal opinion on the matter, and I would also be interested if you could point me toward relevant talk pages if the Wikipedia's community as started discussing the issue. Thanks. NanoLuuke (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi, the only thing I am allowed to report about that case, is to point you to this blog post: What the Hachette v. Internet Archive Decision Means for Our Library. This is the official and only response for the public. I notice the words "Wayback Machine" appear nowhere in that post. It says "The lawsuit only concerns our book lending program." It says "Separately, we have come to agreement with the Association of American Publishers (AAP).." (ie. an agreement has been reached). It says "Our library is still strong, growing, and serving millions of patrons." It says "Because this case was limited to our book lending program, the injunction does not significantly impact our other library services." It further says 'Regarding the monetary payment, we can say that “AAP’s significant attorney’s fees and costs incurred in the Action since 2020 have been substantially compensated by the Monetary Judgement Payment.'" I hope this helps. -- GreenC16:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 8 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hello everyone, and welcome to the 24th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 24 December 2021. Uh-huh, we're finally covering the good ones among the rest! Aren't you excited? Remember to include a link in double brackets to the script's .js page when you install the script, so that we can see who uses the script in WhatLinksHere! The ScriptInstaller gadget automatically does this. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
Making user scripts load faster by SD0001 is this month's featured script, which caches userscripts every day to eliminate the overhead caused by force-downloading the newest version of scripts every time you open a Wikipedia page. Despite being released in April 2021, our best script scouters have failed to locate it due to its omission from the US of L. For security reasons, the script only supports loading JavaScript pages.
Ahecht has created a fork of SiBr4/TemplateSearch, which adds the "TP:" shortcut for "Template:" in the search box, and updated it to be compatible with Vector 2022.
AquilaFasciata/goToTopFast is a much faster fork of the classic goToTop script that also adds compatibility for Minerva and Vector 2022.
Without caching. Each script takes 400–500ms. A particularly large script takes 1.11 s! Internet download speed is 50 Mbps.With caching enabled. Each script takes just 1-2 ms to load.
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Dragoniez/SuppressEnterInForm stops you from accidentally submitting anything due to pressing enter while in the smaller box, and works on almost anything... except the InputBox element itself, used in subscription lists and the Signpost Crossword! Oh, the humanity!
Doǵu/Adiutor(pictured) provides a nice, integrated interface to do some twinkley tasks such as copyvio detection, CSD tagging, and viewing the most recent diff.
Eejit43 has quite the aesthetically pleasing scripts, all made in TypeScript.
/afcrc-helper is a replacement for the unmaintained Enterprisey/AFCRHS and processes Redirects for Creation and Categories for Creation requests.
/ajax-undo stops the "undo" button from taking you to another page while providing a text box to provide a reason for the revert.
/redirect-helper(pictured) adds a much better interface for editing and redirects, including categorization, for which valid categories are dictated by /redirect-helper.json.
/rmtr-helper helps process technical requested moves without being able to actually move them.
Guycn2/UserInfoPopup(pictured) adds a flyout after the watchlist star on userspace pages that displays the common information you might use about a user.
Jeeputer/editCounter, under userspace, adds a portlet link to count your edits by namespace, put them in a table, and put that table in a hardcoded subpage, all in the background.
Hilst/Scripts/sectionLinks converts all section links to use the § sign, which are known to be preferred over the ugly # by 99% of the devils I've met.
PrimeHunter/Category source.js adds portlet links to tell you where a category for an article comes from and supports those from template transclusions.
Dragoniez/ToollinkTweaks adds more and customizable links next to users in page history, logs, watchlist, recent changes, etc.
Firefly/more-block-info optimizes the display of rangeblocks in contribution pages. Doesn't work outside the English locale of any wiki, unfortunately.
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AjaxLoader makes paging links (e.g. older 50, 500, newest) load without refreshing and makes you realize how slow your internet actually is.
Ahecht/RedirectID adds the redirect target to all redirects. For all the WP:NAVPOPS haters. (Do these exist?)
Dragoniez/MarkBLockedGlobal: Remember the "strike blocked usernames" gadget? Now you can use a red, dotted line to highlight rangeblocks and global locks!
Jonesey/common(pictured) has some styles to overhaul your Vector 2022 experience. It reduces padding everywhere, and makes the top bar animation faster.
Aaron Liu/V22 is a fork that narrows the sidebars instead of upheaving them, reverts the January 2024 dropdown changes, and restores the old page-link color for links that don't go outside the current wiki.
Nardog: SmartDiff is a spiritual successor to Enterprisey/fancy-diffs. It makes the page title part of links in diffs clickable, along with template and parser function calls. Unnamed parameters can be configured per template to also be linked. All links are styled based on the normal CSS classes of rendered links.
For the paranoid: Rublov/anonymize replaces your username at the top of the screen with the generic "User page" text. Remember, it is your duty to persuade everyone that editing is an honor.
/AjaxBlock provides a dialog box for easy input of reasons while blocking users.
/Selective Rollback(pictured) provides a dialog box to customize rollback edit summaries and does them without reloading the page. Seriously, why doesn't MediaWiki already do this?
/flickrsearch adds a portlet link to search for uploadable flickr images about the subject.
/randomincategory adds a portlet link when on Category pages to go to a random page in the current category.
Vghfr/EasyTemplates adds a portlet link to automatically insert some of the most common inline {{fix}} templates.
Yes, we're just doing 'em as we go now. Thanks for reading through this looong issue, if you did! I'm sure this'll send a record for the longest issue ev-ah. You may need to wait even longer for the last issue, as our reserve of old-y and goodie scripts have ran out... We encourage you to try and do some of the requests or improvement tasks. See you in Summer, hopefully!
Latest comment: 8 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion
I'm going through your instructions, since they appear the easiest to get started with a bot. Thanks for creating them! Should I ask questions here or at the yet-to-be-created red-linked User talk:GreenC/BotWikiAwk? I'll ask here for now...
I know that Toolforge recently changed. I'm hoping that won't be a problem. I already observed that the page User:GreenC/BotWikiAwk/Toolforge says:
Deprecated - Toolforge no longer has a Grid, as of December 2023. These instructions are outdated. A future version of BWA that supports Toolforge concurrency will be forthcoming.
Fortunately, I am new to Toolforge, so I won't bother with trying out the old system. ;)
Questions/comments so far:
(1) I'm at User:GreenC/BotWikiAwk#Setup right now using SSH login to Toolforge. So far so good.
One line that confused me was that I thought "/home/adminuser/BotWikiAwk/lib" should be typed exactly, but I believe "adminuser" is my username. It might be helpful to make that clear in the instructions.
About to try that.
(2) Where it says:
Add BotWikiAwk to the PATH eg.
PATH=$PATH:/home/adminuser/BotWikiAwk/bin
Log out and back in so environment vars are set.
Why does is say to log out and log back in? If I log out, doesn't that clear the variables? I am planning to add it to my .bashrc (or possibly .kshrc or .zshrc [whatever that is]). I haven't used UNIX in about 30 years, so it's only slowly coming back and new features have been added!
Oh, I believe I see the problem. I think you mean it should be added to the .bash_profile just like the other one rather than from the command line... If that line was indented, I think it would be less confusing...
--David Tornheim (talk) 11:39, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well, if your intention is to use it on Toolforge instead of on another computer (home etc.), then I don't know what to do because they recently changed to using containers (in December) and you need to make a custom container since there is no container available for shell tools (that I am aware of)- and I don't know how to make one. If you do install on Toolforge, the PATH will be to wherever BWA was installed, use the 'pwd' command to check. The setup instructions are really for installing anywhere except Toolforge. -- GreenC14:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 7 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hi! I saw your post on Materialscientist's talk and started tracking this problem yesterday. I've just blocked 2.45.126.120 for a month following an edit they made, and will do the same for any similar edits from the same vandal that I come across. Feel free to ping me if you spot any others. Nice to do something different for a change :) —Smalljim17:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Italian editor is persistent over a long period. They don't mind reverts or blocks, as a mobile IP they show up every few days and make a series of subtle changes to numbers (heights of buildings and mountains). Mostly it's been in the 2.44.0.0 and 2.45.0.0 Class B ranges, lately. -- GreenC18:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 7 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hey GreenC, about a month ago, I added the template to indicate a user is deceased to my talk page in anticipation of my suicide, which you removed with a fairly insensitive edit summary. I unfortunately survived the attempt, but in the future, please don't assume in bad faith that users would facetiously use that template for "retirement." I understand that you probably run into that situation more often than an actual death, and I also acknowledge that my own edit summary was not very specific (though it should be obvious why I might've wanted to keep the details under wraps), but just remember that there are human beings behind the usernames. I will also do my part and not reuse the template again for future attempts; rest assured I had read the guidelines about using the template beforehand, though it seems I misunderstood something. Anyway I've seen some of your contributions elsewhere on the site and they're always constructive, keep up the good work. --Nsophiay (talk) 02:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for explaining the situation. Using the template for oneself could constitute a threat of self harm, which is governed by WP:SOS. I'll keep that in mind in the future. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I am going to close this thread. Please email if you want. -- GreenC05:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hey GreenC, quick Q - if I look at an old article that has been archived on the Wayback Machine, usually there are many versions over several years. What's the best practice in terms of picking up which link to include in a reference on Wikipedia? I am assuming in this scenario that any version would do for the purposes of providing a reference (i.e. the changes are minimal, if any, from one year to another). Thanks! --Molochmeditates (talk) 20:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh yeah the red. It's more time, right now, I'm trying to get the early history of AH and Tactics figured out, there are some important people, like Eric Dott, and Shaw, who shaped the whole industry for a couple decades until the 1984 crash. He was Avalon Hill, sort of like the head of a Hollywood Studio during the golden age, he was the greenlight guy and herder of talented sheep. -- GreenC16:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's fine, work on whatever your priorities are (and those are good ones), but if you do come across anything for these, or any already existing articles for games... :) BOZ (talk) 16:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
OMG lol "Advanced Third Reich" for only the most ardent enthusiasts! No, I understand but I still laughed. I just replied to you on JFK Jr Jr's fraught BLP talk page. I like your user page. The Kafka part is excellent! I used to talk to David Auerbach on Twitter. He is nice. I'm curious about a game of herding sheep too! Sheep and piggies are very sweet. I misread your username as GreenCard Mom and thought you were another woman like me. Where can I find this game of sheep please? The expression, "herder of talented sheep" is pithy.--FeralOink (talk) 07:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Saw your closing statement at Talk:The Hunt for Gollum#Requested move 12 May 2024. Seems you've been editing WP about as long as I have, and congratulations for hangin' in so long! As you must already know, on WP sometimes you get the bear (consensus) and sometimes the bear gets you. Again, thanks for all you've done to improve Wikipedia and to help build a better and better encyclopedia!P.I. Ellsworth , ed.put'er there00:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
No hard feelings. I was trying to establish consensus for what I believe will be a reoccurring topic of conversation over the next year or two, but, things got chaotic and bad faithy, and solutions are not clear, and I have more important things to work on. Someone else will deal with it, there is no lack of attention there. And it's no loss to reclaim my time to do other things on Wikipedia. -- GreenC01:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 months ago6 comments2 people in discussion
Hi GreenC: I've seen your bot updating several of my articles over the last few weeks and fixing links to WebCitation.org – many thanks for running this useful tool. Over the years while researching stuff for potential future articles, I have compiled a list of webpages I have archived for possible future use (off-Wiki, on a spreadsheet). Unfortunately, in some cases – back in the days when I was using WebCitation and it was working properly – I only saved the "short" link (e.g. www.webcitation.org/6EBcbrCbU), so I no longer know what the full URL was and therefore cannot look for it in other archives or see whether it is still a live page. Do you by any chance have a way of running your code across this list, if I provide it to you, and determining what the full URLs are, and potentially linking to an alternative archive site if the URL has been archived elsewhere? I'm not very technically minded so I have no idea if that is even possible! Best wishes, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!)20:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi User:Hassocks5489, it's not possible to check directly while WebCite is down. But you can send me the list, and I'll see what I can find by comparing with known URLs. For example if I know that 6EBcbrCbU = example.com based on previous encounters with 6EBcbrCbU elsewhere on Wikipedia, which are kept in my logs. -- GreenC22:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Suggest post the list to a sub-page in your user space, I'll update to long form any I can, then run the bot on those to convert to another archive provider. -- GreenC22:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:GreenC bot is the user account (ie. me). The bot code running in that edit is WP:WAYBACKMEDIC. That edit was based on a request at WP:URLREQ#bigten.org ie. a domain name specific run. Medic is a specialized bot that requires manual controls to adjust for soft-404s and other issues, so there is no web page where users can run it, rather users can make requests for it to process domains, at WP:URLREQ. If you want to control an archive bot on a page, there is https://iabot.org .. but it has limitations, Medic can do things IABot can not, at the cost of manual interventions, and thus WP:URLREQ. -- GreenC17:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh for that domain, if you see anything it missed let me know, I can make adjustments. I depend on feedback, particularly domain-specific knowledge others have. -- GreenC18:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
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Latest comment: 3 months ago5 comments3 people in discussion
Hi there! I assume you're good with regex searches (or whatever it may be called), and I was wondering if there is a way to find a non-"cite-templated" refs where the URL is tagged as a {{dead link}}, but where a doi is included in the reference. Example in this ref a doi was present, so I could easily remove the dead link and run citation bot on only the doi. Does that make sense? Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:Josve05a: Hey, that's a great idea. This could be a regular report, anyone can chip away at it. I have a lot going on, let me think about it, will let you know what develops. -- GreenC18:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 3 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
After the ＲＩＩＪ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
User:Yekshemesh: You are welcome. I'll need your support, because it has been removed before, and it will probably be removed again ("hey, what is this word?"). Added sources this time, hope to find more. -- GreenC16:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Am I right that this very useful bot was last run in 2019? Can you tell me what are the possible parameters and how do I request a rerun either with the same or different parameters?
One reason I ask is because (after some discussion about PROD and AfD on my talk page) I am curious to know how many completely unsourced articles have not yet been tagged as such. My ability with stats is very weak so I am unable to estimate it from the fact that a few hundred are being tagged (I presume manually) each month.
Also there are now no known articles of interest to the climate change project which are completely unsourced. If you can help me find any more I hope to fix them. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
It was User:GreenC bot/Job 11 (noref bot). This was a very touchy bot with tons of edge cases to account for. It tagged about 10,000 pages. It's been 5 years, so it would probably require a lot more work before it could safely run again, to account for changes on Wikipedia since 2019. Not sure I have the time to figure all that out again it took weeks of testing. Probably not something anyone but myself could run safely. It would probably be only a few thousand pages. Really instead of more tagging, dive in to help resolve pages already tagged: Category:Articles lacking sources .. note the high numbers from April-June 2019, added by this bot, are still unresolved though progress has been made. -- GreenC15:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok thanks for quick reply so I won’t request this. Do you have enough knowledge of statistics to justify that estimate of a few thousand pages based on the number tagged manually each month? If not I will see whether is any wikproject for maths and ask them Chidgk1 (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Well, when I ran in 2019, it got about 10,000 and that was backlog since day 1, about 20 years of Wikipedia. Hard to imagine in the following 5 years there has been more than a few thousand new ones added, particularly since the New Page Patrol is more watchful then it was in the early days of Wikipedia. But these numbers are based on my program's algorithm for determining lack of references, and that is unique since it gets subjective what counts as a reference. -- GreenC20:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
There is a project (somewhere) that focuses on tagging and fixing uncited articles. They would know the most about it. -- GreenC14:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 month ago8 comments4 people in discussion
Hello, the problem with usurped domains is actually worse than I anticipated… I’ve managed to compile a list of about 400-500 likely usurped domains just by looking at football related articles. Would you be willing to process this many domains? As far as I can tell, each of them don’t have much use (10 at most), but every little bit helps of course. - XXBlackburnXx (talk) 12:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:XXBlackburnXx: Hi yes I can do that. It's cut and paste the list, the bot does the rest, scalable to any amount. Amazing you found so many, just in football articles. There are over 10 million unique domains on Wikipedia, as each falls into disuse, they are a target for re-register by spammers. The truth is eventually every dead domain will need to be usurped, with enough time Wikipedia will be a huge dump of dead domains, a spammer heaven. My bot can only do Enwiki, the other 300+ wikis are currently unprotected. -- GreenC15:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@XXBlackburnXx Beware, not only dead domains, but they also inject their spam link and redirects into live domains. Don't be surprised if you found 1000+ more in other articles (outside of football ones, of course). Veracious^(•‿•)^10:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh believe me, I know exactly what you're talking about. I help maintain the global spam blacklist, and we've identified so many of those fricking domains. It's a real plague... XXBlackburnXx (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
As somebody who is active cross-wiki, I would of course be interested if there have been any plans to do this sort of thing globally? Similarly to IABot, it would save a lot of efforts if there was one single bot rather than lots of separate ones running on different wikis. Thanks so much for all the work you do! 1234qwer1234qwer423:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
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Latest comment: 1 month ago4 comments2 people in discussion
I saw you've been dealing with sites that have been usurped, is there a way of reporting this? www.idvl.org used to have useful articles, but now offers dodgy gold. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested«@» °∆t°18:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Latest comment: 21 days ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Thank you for catching (and fixing) my edit goof on the Village Pump technical page. I'm not even sure how it happened, as I thought I was editing a section and should not have been able to affect the whole page. May have been a workflow error on my part (I keep multiple tabs open and multitask like crazy) or a bug. Anyway, it's quite embarrassing and thank you for the rescue. Thisisnotatest (talk) 06:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 17 days ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Thanks for adding the citation - there was already a perhaps more detailed version of it in the lead, which I used to replace the one you added. I was the creator of this article, being offended that "The Wayback Machine" of the Internet Archive had usurped the term from Mr. Peabody and Sherman, so I watch it. The article has had a curious history - battles over the term with the Internet Archive, objections over puns, some fail to see the point of the article altogether, etc. I was initially unaware of the massive number of links to "The Wayback Machine" used in citations everywhere. The section on Popular Culture has been removed twice, though that is the whole reason for the notability for the article. A lot of this is amusing that a 1960s comic can still have such influence and be argued over. Anyways thanks for your attention to the article! Bdushaw (talk) 13:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:Bdushaw Well thanks for standing watch, many articles need a dedicated editor to counter entropy. The phrase "In Popular Culture" triggers many people. Sort of like waving a red cape at a bull. Find different wording. Try "Influences", it will save you trouble, and more accurate. It's cliche anyway. BTW I work at the archive and know the origin of the term, the person who coined it, but it's undocumented oral history within the organization so can't be used on Wikipedia. They were born in 1959, their prime cartoon years where during the 60s, it was just a playful thing they came up with in the mid 90s, when pitching the idea. The idea, and name, stuck. -- GreenC15:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
You are probably right about "popular culture", now that you mention it...I've gone with "Adopted by the popular lexicon, an idiom". Maybe better, who knows! I have been a long time fan of Rocky and Bullwinkle...that's a funny show. Bdushaw (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Request for a featured list sibling to Wikipedia:Featured articles/mismatches
Latest comment: 18 days ago7 comments3 people in discussion
Hi, I and the other Featured List coordinators were looking at Wikipedia:Featured articles/mismatches, which is maintained by your fambot/GreenC bot, and we noticed that a Featured List equivalent would be exactly the same but with "article" changed to "list" in the category/page names, assuming there's no page parsing differences between WP:FA and WP:FL. (e.g. it's just Category:Featured lists vs Category:Featured articles, Category:Wikipedia featured lists vs. Category:Wikipedia featured articles, and Wikipedia:Featured lists vs. Wikipedia:Featured articles.) Is that something that you would be willing to have your bot do? It would be very helpful for maintenance of that space. Thanks for your consideration, even if it can't be done! --PresN16:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I could probably. Also run one for Good Articles. The problems are usually with the index pages, Wikipedia:Featured articles and Wikipedia:Featured lists, since they are frequently human-edited, layout can change on a whim, which breaks the parser. Most of the index pages have different schemes that require different parsers. Other than that, it should be mostly a boiler plate fork of the existing bot. -- GreenC18:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's done. Wikipedia:Featured lists/mismatches has the first report. It runs on the same schedule as the Featured Article, once a week Monday around noon UTC. Please notify appropriate forums so those who are interested can add it to their watchlist. It takes a few seconds to run, so if you want more frequently, but found that once a week is a good pace on the human side. Good Articles runs three times a week because of frequent problems due to the number of articles. -- GreenC22:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, added to the list. It's surprising it's been mostly limited to asian gambling sites because this method is accessible to any spammer or maleware operator. I don't think the Internet has fully realized the potential, over time most domains become inoperable, and stale links are everywhere. There probably needs to be some sort of initiative by the IETF or SANS, RfCs and services to track it. -- GreenC15:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh wow. That's not scalable. No doubt GitHub is a target for harvesting dead domains just as Wikipedia has been. GitHub admins should get involved and use tools to automate in some way, like we do turning links un-clickable with the usurped switch. -- GreenC15:38, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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It's sort of least-bad-choice, every options has problems. There is the scenario where the usurped domain is rescued by the original owner and has good content again. And you are right, sometimes hijackers let their victims go free, only to be hijacked again in the future. My sense is once it's been hijacked it's more likely to be hijacked again. If we assume the studies about link rot are correct, probably 50% of every domain on Wikipedia will expire within the next 10 years or so. It's a massive free for all for hijackers. If we did nothing, Wikipedia will become a wasteland of spam and unverifiable citations. So maybe you are correct the least-bad-choice is to default to hiding the original URL behind an archive. It's worth considering, not sure of downsides. -- GreenC16:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
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