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Alvar (given name) moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Alvar (given name), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. ... discospinster _talk 16:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:02, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:38, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Re: Your edit to Alvar (given name)

Hello, GreenlandGneiss,

I have reverted your edit at Alvar (given name). Firstly, you have deleted referenced material of the page. The reference from Eesti nimide statistika clearly states that it is an Estonian name. The reference also states that as of 1 January 1 2022, Alvar is the 244th most popular male name in Estonia – the name in Estonia even has a national Name Day (24 September). It is therefore, an Estonian name. Secondly, the reference at Behind the Name gives the name usage in Estonia and Sweden. Nordic Names also gives the name usage in Finnish. As does Baby Names (along with Estonia). If a name is used prominently in a country, it is indeed an Estonian name or a Finnish name. Maybe not the actual origin of the name, but the name itself is now common enough in the culture to be an Estonian or Finnish name.

Behind the Name gives the origin of the name as "From the Old Norse name Alfarr, formed of the elements alfr "elf" and arr "warrior"." Baby Names gives the origin as "Alvar is a Swedish, Finnish and Estonian variant of Oliver. The name Oliver is derived from the Old Germanic name 'Alfihar', itself derived from the words 'alf', which means 'elf', and 'heri', which means 'a warrior'." Nordic Names has several possibilities of the origin of the name. I don't doubt the Germanic origins of the name, but you literally deleted references, then didn't add any references to your claim. I will leave the category of Germanic masculine given names, because that is the actual origin, but it is used in Finland and Estonia. But I am reverting the other changes. I will add references to the Germanic origin. ExRat (talk) 12:20, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I thought that what was meant by 'Estonian name' or 'Finnish name' was that it was of Estonian/Finnish origin. That's why I wrote that it was a Germanic name. Sorry. Also, I did not add references because Behind the Name, Baby Names, Nordic Names, and the other first page results do not seem to be reliable sources. Preferably we would want an actually reliable source on this subject, not a blog or website with no references. -GreenlandGneiss (talk) 16:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)