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First Post

Hello World! Bosintang (talk) 05:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheongnyangni-dong

I appreciate your contribution to the neighborhood of Dongdaemun-gu, Seoul. However the content you add to the article is not about "청량리동" but "청량리". That is different, and you seem to read Korean but are not knowledgeable of Korean settlement. Also the issue pertaining to prostitution to any culture is sensitive, so you would better address balanced point of view on it. Anyway, if you want to keep the content, you should create "Cheongnyang-ri" separately. However, according to Doosan Encyber, the area is not only for red-light zone, so I would expect you would weight the future article with balance. Regards--Appletrees (talk) 03:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Appletrees, I appreciate your point of view but 청량리 is colloquial for 청량리동. This may in fact be something else to add to the article of 청량리동, if there is a source to this. There is no offical neighbourhood or district of Seoul called 청량리. If the Lotte building, transportation hub, and red light district I am referring to are not located in this neighbourhood, please tell me where they are located and I'll contribute to that neighbourhood instead. AS for the article being fair and balanced, I provided sources and wrote the three major notable landmarks in this neighbourhood: the department store, the transportation hub, and Seoul's largest red-light district. If there is more to write about Cheongyangni-dong, then please do! Bosintang (talk) 03:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, wrong, When I said the above, I referred to Doosan Encyclopedia, and Cheongnyang-ri is not colloquial for 청량리동. It exists separately as a administrative precinct. If you say to the residents of Cheongnyangni-dong about 청량리 588, you would not get a good response indeed. Dongdaemun (Great East Gate) is not located in Dongdaemun-gu, but Jongno-gu, so the location is likely difference btw 법정동 or 행정동. --Appletrees (talk) 04:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, you may be right and it might be located in Jeonnong-dong. I'll verify that before I make any other changes. Bosintang (talk) 04:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

User name

I've notice that your user name is very unique, misspell of bosintang (보신탕). Can I ask you for the reason why you name it yourself? The name is somewhat derogatory to Korean here. You appeare to be non-Korean, so I'm very wondering about your user name. You can visit the Wikisite here, WP:CHU. --Appletrees (talk) 03:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I apologise if my username offends you, but this is a value judgement you are making. Yes, my username is related to 보신탕, and I chose it because it was a unique handle, and have used this for years on different internet forums. Bosintang (talk) 03:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

However, supposed that you're a French, and someone new guy name himself "frog legs", how the French guy would think of him? You can change your name via the link that I recommended to you. --Appletrees (talk) 04:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I honestly don't see what the big deal is. It's a traditional Korean dish. It spells as one word. I don't see why a French person would get upset over someone calling themselves Frog Legs, even if it is a stupid handle, unless they thought there was something inheritently wrong or controversial about eating frog legs. I don't. That said, if it's going to cause controversy, there are bigger things to acomplish and I'll consider changing my name. Bosintang (talk) 04:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

That is what American or British scorn about French eating frog legs and French would get upset when hearing it. I saw a couple of plays regarding some ancient history of England and France and films via TV, English actors call French "the frog" or 'frog eaters". Likewise, bosintang is a Korean traditional dish that has caused controversies to inside or outside of Korea thesedays and you would get much attention to yourself. In fact you're very conspicuous because of the name and the controversial subject regarding prostitution although it is well written) The selection contains your intention to keep yourself viewed with it. To me, your name looks offensive, not laughable or joke, although I don't have any power for you to change your name, but at least I can a file on your name at WP:RFCU/N --Appletrees (talk) 04:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I will change my name, I just have to think up a handle. In the meantime, may I suggest that you don't assume that everyone has bad intentions? And just because some Americans or British or insert whatever nationality you want make fun of eating frog legs does not mean there is anything inheritently bad about eating frogs legs. That's more of a reflection of the person making fun of the people eating frogs legs, then the people eating frog legs, isn't it? What are you feelings towards this website http://galbijjim.com? If I named myself samgyetang, would that be more appropriate for you? Bosintang (talk) 04:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I put a request in to have my name changed to Halifax_Nomad. Bosintang (talk) 04:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much and it sounds stylish. I actually intended to recommend you yukgaejang (육개장) The name itself is strongly associated with bosintang even though the article does not have a description on the etymology. When the dish was made, b eef (yuk 육) was replaced in place of dog meat (gae 개) for whom could not eat the meat. The mention of frogs legs is related to what I've experienced when I was in London. I would not assume any bad faith from people, but the name is very catchy in my eye. --Appletrees (talk) 04:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

yukgaejang would have been a fun handle :). I decided to pick a more neutral handle though. I really don't want to spend too much of my wikipedian time arguing or defending my choice of username. Anways, thanks for pointing out my mistake in the article. I may edit Jeonnong-dong in the future if someone else doesn't do it first -- at this point I don't think Cheonyangni needs it's own separate article -- but I want to be more cautious about my sources, and work on some more less potentiall controversial stuff first. Bosintang (talk) 04:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree

Well, I don't think so, I've seen many people used the phrase a lot on CFD and AFD and it has no intention to attack the nominator. I just don't get the nominator's rationale. The article was threated to be deleted with unsuitable reason. Besides, you're a newbie, I don't think you know Wiki policies and etiquette than me. Besides, if you think my statement is inappropriate, you're overthinking of it. --Caspian blue (talk) 23:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought your pointing out only on me looks some kind of retaliation (minor, not mature) while you're very calm at Dekkappai's comment. You did not pay attention to my comment itself "per --", but the manner. So you do not say fair. If you ask me I feel offended? yes, I do, but little.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, communication with somebody on online causes unnecessary misunderstanding. If my mention of the retaliation sounded to you too strong, well, blame my poor English. (maybe tit-for-tat is better?) I've known Dekkappai for months and he is a decent guy with good heart, but has undergone frustrating AFDs on the similar subjects a lot for him. --Caspian blue (talk) 23:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)