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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 10
This month, we discuss the new CollaborationKit extension. Here's an image as a teaser:
23:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Wikimedian in Residence BoF at Wikimania 2017
Hello!
My name is David Alves (User:Horadrim~usurped), and I'm an Wikipedian in Residence at RIDC NeuroMat (User:Horadrim). I've reach your contact through the Wikimedian in residence page in Outreach. As you may know, Wikimania 2017 is coming! I am here because, as a fellow WiR, I believe this would be a great opportunity for us to share experiences, discuss difficulties and exchange solutions, creating a community among us capable of supporting in other projects that would benefit from residents.
In that sense, I have submitted a proposal of a Birds of a Feather activity to Wikimania that you can check out here. I hope to count with your support in this project and would like to invite you to join us if you participate in Wikimania. In case of any doubts, please feel free to contact me, either in my talk pages or by e-mail at david.alves
outlook.com.
Thank you very much! Horadrim~usurped (talk) 00:33, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
List of sculptures in Central Park
Your lists of public art in London are so wonderful, especially the one for the City of Westminster. If you ever decide to use your talents for cities across the pond, you might consider List of sculptures in Central Park, which wouldn't be too overwhelming since it's a smaller, defined area instead of an entire city. Just a suggestion/invitation, but no worries if not interested. ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:26, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: At the moment I'm preoccupied with some artworks at the edge of Central Park, but thanks for your always kind words! List of public art in the City of London is direly in need of some work so I'll probably tackle that next; I've made a start in this sandpit. Ham II (talk) 16:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Awesome! (re: both projects). ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:30, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- By the way, I am not familiar with the rules of the Met Open Access Artworks Challenge, but I identified some missing articles here, if interested. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:41, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Listed public art categories
I've taken the plunge and started the long required "Grade II/II*" public art categories. I've only added a few so far, I'm sure you can find more! These are distinct from memorials and statues etc. No Swan So Fine (talk) 07:44, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- Hi No Swan So Fine, thanks for taking the plunge but are you sure this is the best way to go about this? On Wikimedia Commons some time ago I began creating categories for "listed sculptures" and "listed statues" in London, and ideally I'd prefer consistency across Wikipedia and Commons. The whole categorisation situation for "public art"/"outdoor sculptures" is a bit of a mess, and perhaps is due for some re-examination. I'll use Wikipedia:WikiProject Public Art/London/Wikidata to find all the listed public artworks in London with articles. Ham II (talk) 08:38, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
- You might be right! If we are pretty sure that every piece of public art falls into either the memorial/statue/sculpture category then I think your approach is best. I'm just trying to think of exceptions at present! Perhaps "listed public art" could be the parent? No Swan So Fine (talk) 09:56, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
@No Swan So Fine: In other words, a category tree like this?
That looks OK to me. Personally, I don't like that there are two modifiers, "public" and "outdoor", which overlap so much but aren't quite the same. However, the "outdoor sculptures" naming style is well established across Wikipedia and Commons and is probably here to stay. Pinging Another Believer to see what he thinks of the proposed categories.
When creating subcategories we'd have to remember that the system with Grades I, II* and II only applies to England and Wales; it's different for Scotland and Northern Ireland. Ham II (talk) 16:15, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
I think categories like Category:Grade II listed statues in the City of Westminster are fantastic, especially when they can contain this many entries. 
Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you and post-event survey for Met Open Access Artworks Challenge!
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We'd like to invite your participation in the post-event survey for the Met Open Access Artworks Challenge.--Pharos (talk) 20:27, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Just a reminder, if you haven't filled it out, the post-event survey is open only until July 31.--Pharos (talk) 19:01, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Structured Data on Commons Newsletter, July 19, 2017
Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!
Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons?
The millions of files on Wikimedia Commons are described with a lot of information or (meta)data. With the project Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons, this data is structured more, and is made machine-readable. This will make it easier to view, search (also multilingually), edit, organize and re-use the files on Commons.
In early 2017, the Sloan Foundation funded this project (see documentation). Development takes place in 2017–2020. It involves staff from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) and many volunteers. To achieve this, Wikibase support is added to Wikimedia Commons. Wikibase is the technology that is also used for Wikidata.
Recent developments: groundwork
- A new and crucial technical step (federation) now makes it possible to reference data from one Wikibase website in another. Because of this, it will be possible to use Wikidata's items and properties to describe media files on Commons.
- Another important piece of groundwork is under development: so-called Multi-Content Revisions. This feature allows structured data to be stored alongside wiki text, so that one wiki page can contain several types of content.
Team updates
- Amanda Bittaker was hired as Program Manager for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. Amanda will take care of the overall management of the project.
- Sandra Fauconnier (known as Spinster in her volunteer capacity) is the new Community Liaison. She will support the collaboration between the communities (Commons, Wikidata, GLAM) and the product development teams at the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland.
- We have open positions for a UX designer and a Product Manager!
Talking with communities and allies
- Long-term feedback from GLAMs. Besides the Wikimedia community, many external cultural and knowledge institutions (GLAMs - Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) are interested in Structured Data on Commons and are willing to provide feedback on the long-term plans for the project. Alex Stinson, GLAM strategist at the Wikimedia Foundation, is currently in contact with Europeana, DPLA, the Smithsonian and the National Archives of the United States. Alex is also looking for other GLAM institutions who might be able to advise on the long term. If you know of an institution or partner that may be appropriate for consultation, do get in touch with Alex.
- Jonathan Morgan, design researcher, is starting to work on two projects:
- Researching batch upload workflows by interviewing GLAM institutions
- Researching the enrichment, organization and improvement tasks on already uploaded media files by engaging with active Commons contributors. This research follows up on existing research by Wikimedia Deutschland on heavy Commons users.
What comes next?
- The Structured Data on Commons team meets in the week after Wikimania to lay the groundwork for the next steps. This includes new backend development and design work, for better and more clear integration of the structured data in pages on Wikimedia Commons.
- The project's information pages on Wikimedia Commons will receive a long overdue update in the upcoming months. The team will also work on more and better communication channels. Feedback, wishes and tips are welcome at the project's general talk page.
Get involved
- Join us at Wikimania! We are present at the hackathon, and there will be a session on Saturday, August 12: Structured Commons: what changes are coming?
- Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
- Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
- Do you want to help out translating messages about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.
- Stay tuned for requests for input, discussion and participation as soon as the info portal is refreshed (see above). These will also be announced via this newsletter.
Many greetings from SandraF (WMF) (talk), Community Liaison for this project! 13:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
Sorry to see you're semi-retired, but good to see that you're still chipping in now and again!
Just to say thanks for uploading that batch of photos from the National Churches Trust album on flickr to commons. I've been compiling the list of churches/chapels from the Sacred Wales web competition (here) and found the photos very useful. Cheers Robevans123 (talk) 13:43, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Robevans123: Cheers for the warm words, but just to warn you there could be some copyright trouble with these photos. I noticed after uploading that the NCT seems to indiscriminately use a CC-BY licence for every image it uploads to Flickr. Some, such as File:St Seirol, Penmon Priory (35833214476).jpg, are reposted from other Flickr users under the wrong licence, and I've nominated them for deletion. It's difficult to stay semi-retired! Ham II (talk) 18:44, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- You'd have thought an organisation like that would be a bit more savvy about copyright etc. I did notice they were a bit lax in the details of some of their listings, often upgrading the listed status by a grade or two... Come to think of it, one of the photos they used looked like it was from Wikimedia Commons and I don't think they credited that or the photographer. Just checked - the one of St Illtyd, Neath is on commons, from geograph, and taken by Robert Davies. The NCT, like anyone else, is free to use it, but they should credit the creator... Robevans123 (talk) 20:12, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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Top 50 Churches
Thanks for directing me to the list- wasn't actually aware of it! I had no idea that Conway Road Methodist Church would be on it. It certainly deserves its own article, so I will probably have a go at doing one. (talk). 24 August 2017.
Move back?
Should we move the articles about the Charles II and James II statues back to their former titles? Not sure if we have enough editor feedback. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Nevé–selbert has done the same for every similar article title he can find, so there needs to be a full discussion about what the style should be, IMO. Ham II (talk) 20:35, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not worried about other articles, at least for now, but since I'm invested in the Charles II and James II articles, I went ahead and moved them back. I've asked Nevé–selbert to start an RfC if inclined, but three editors expressed a preference for "Charles II" over "King Charles II", and since there is not consensus to move either page, I moved them back. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Structured Commons newsletter, October 25, 2017
Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!
- Community updates
- Rama published an article about Structured Commons in Arbido, a Swiss online magazine for archivists, librarians and documentalists: original in French, illustrated and the article translated in English.
- We now have a dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
- Join the community focus group!
- Translation. Do you want to help out translating messages about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.
- The documentation and info pages about Structured Data on Commons have received a thorough update, in order to get them ready for all the upcoming work. Obsolete pages were archived. There are undoubtedly still a lot of omissions and bits that are unclear. You can help by editing boldly, and by leaving feedback and tips on the talk pages.
- We have started to list tools, gadgets and bots that might be affected by Structured Commons in order to prepare for a smooth transition to the new situation. You can help by adding alerts about/to specific tools and developers on the dedicated tools page. You can also create Phabricator tasks to help keep track of this. Volunteers and developers interested in helping out with this process are extremely welcome - please sign up!
- Help write the next Structured Commons newsletter.
- Structured Data on Commons was presented at Wikimania 2017 in Montréal for a packed room. First design sketches for search functionality were discussed during a breakout session. Read the Etherpad reports of the presentation and the breakout session.
- Katherine Maher, Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, answered questions on Quora. One of her answers, mentioning Structured Data on Commons, was republished on Huffington Post.
- Sandra Fauconnier, Amanda Bittaker and Ramsey Isler from the Structured Commons team will be at WikidataCon. Sandra presents Structured Commons there (with a focus on fruitful collaboration between the Wikidata and Commons communities). If you attend the conference, don't hesitate to say hi and have a chat with us! (phabricator task T176858)
- Team updates
Two new people have been hired for the Structured Data on Commons team. We are now complete! :-)
- Ramsey Isler is the new Product Manager of the Multimedia team.
- Pamela Drouin was hired as User Interface Designer. She works at the Multimedia team as well, and her work will focus on the Structured Commons project.
- Partners and allies
- We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
- Research
Design research is ongoing.
- Jonathan Morgan and Niharika Ved have held interviews with various GLAM staff about their batch upload workflows and will finish and report on these in this quarter. (phabricator task T159495)
- At this moment, there is also an online survey for GLAM staff, Wikimedians in Residence, and GLAM volunteers who upload media collections to Wikimedia Commons. The results will be used to understand how we can improve this experience. (phabricator task T175188)
- Upcoming: interviews with Wikimedia volunteers who curate media on Commons (including tool developers), talking about activities and workflows. (phabricator task T175185)
In Autumn 2017, the Structured Commons development team works on the following major tasks (see also the quarterly goals for the team):
- Getting Multi-Content Revisions sufficiently ready, so that the Multimedia and Search Platform teams can start using it to test and prototype things.
- Determine metrics and metrics baseline for Commons (phabricator task T174519).
- The multimedia team at WMF is gaining expertise in Wikibase, and unblocking further development for Structured Commons, by completing the MediaInfo extension for Wikibase.
- Stay up to date!
- Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
- Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
- Join the next IRC office hour and ask questions to the team! It takes place on Tuesday 21 November, 18.00 UTC.
Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)
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Structured Commons newsletter, December 13, 2017
Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!
- Community updates
- There was a IRC Office Hour about Structured Commons on November 21. You can read the log here.
- Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
- NEW: Participate in a survey that helps us prioritize which tools are important for the Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata communities. The survey runs until December 22. Here's some background.
- NEW: Help the team decide on better names for 'captions' and 'descriptions'. You can provide input until January 3, 2018.
- NEW: Help collect interesting Commons files, to prepare for the data modelling challenges ahead! Continuous input is welcome.
- Join the community focus group!
- Do you want to translate messages and information about Structured Data on Commons from English to your own language? Sign up on the translators page.
- Sandra presented the plans for Structured Commons during WikidataCon in Berlin, on October 29. The presentation focused on collaboration between the Wikidata and Commons communities. You can see the full video here.
- Partners and allies
- We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
- Research
- Research findings from interviews and surveys of GLAM project participants are being published to the research page. Check back over the next few weeks as additional details (notes, quotes, charts, blog posts, and slide decks) will be added to or linked from that page.
- The Structured Commons team has written and submitted a report about the first nine months of work on the project to its funders, the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. The 53-page report, published on November 1, is available on Wikimedia Commons.
- The team has started working on designs for changes to the upload wizard (T182019).
- We started preliminary work to prototype changes for file info pages.
- Work on the MediaInfo extension is ongoing (T176012).
- The team is continuing its work on baseline metrics on Commons, in order to be able to measure the effectiveness of structured data on Commons. (T174519)
- Upcoming: in the first half of 2018, the first prototypes and design sketches for file pages, the UploadWizard, and for search will be published for discussion and feedback!
- Stay up to date!
- Follow the Structured Data on Commons project on Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/34/
- Subscribe to this newsletter to receive it on a talk page of your own choice.
- Join the next IRC office hour and ask questions to the team! It takes place on Tuesday, February 13, 18.00 UTC in wikimedia-office webchat.
Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)
Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 16:32, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the tip on Ward-Jackson. My copy arrived in the week and I've just finished incorporating the information from it into the article. Any chance I could trouble you to revisit the ACR? While I'm here, do you have a copy of the Outer South and West London volume? All the best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:19, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: Hi there; please see my replies at the ACR and at WT:PALon. Ham II (talk) 16:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Category:Iconography of Jesus has been nominated for discussion
Category:Iconography of Jesus, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)