Heimvennar

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The added text did not meet some important wikipedia policies and guidelines. First of all it was not referenced, please see verifiability and reliable sources. Secondly, there was a lot of non-English content, whose place is not in the English wikipedia, but other wikipedias (and regardless the translation of such content should be published in a reliable source, and not done by the editor them self). Finally, the included content did not follow the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Regards, -- Jeff3000 16:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

There should also be some encyclopaedic reason for why the speech quotes are there. Do they help the reader understand the article better. In my mind, not really. Instead you should paraphrase the important content from the quotes and put that in the article. Regards, -- Jeff3000 17:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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I just thought Id add this welcome to your talk page since it wasn't already here. Your work on Jämtland is very good. I just wanted to give you a heads up regarding inline citations. If you in any way have references to the things you add please add as many as possible. This is always a big issue when articles are assessed for Good or Featured article status. I have myself been sloppy with this and its always a problem to go back and do it later. Happy editing:)Inge (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome! Det var veldig artig, som dere sier på norsk. I will better myself on the reference matter. //Heimvennar - divider 15:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Jemtland

Hi! I saw that you edited the Coat of arms of Norway article and took a look at your profile. The Jemtland button is very interesting as it highlights some of the of similarities with the dialects of Nord-Trøndelag. -- Nidator ^{T / C} 22:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Women's Sprint

Hello! I think we must be creat articles about Biathlon World Championships 2008 and Women's Sprint. -- User:Artur9501, User talk:Artur9501 13:42, 9 February 2008

Yes I agree´with you! Like the 2007 WC article. //Heimvennar - divider 17:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

Hi, the recent edit you made to Jämtland has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks.   jj137 (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I've expanded the article from 7 000 to 70 000 byte, my latest edits were corrections of inconsistencies, the addition of references, changes in images and as I wrote after my last edit: creation of a seperate geography page (thus allowing me to make the geography section in the main article smaller). I will revert back. //Heimvennar - divider 22:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Ullr being Vanir

Hej, thank you for your contribution on the Norse Mythology template. However, I must say I disagree with you. Ullr is a very strange and obscure figure. In traditional Norse mythology he is regarded as being associated with the Æsir. The Eddas show clear examples of this. (Being the son of Sif, for example.) What his position has been in pre-Norse times, is another matter. I agree that he can have aspects that may resemble the ones of an old fertility god, and there has definitely been a cult of Ullr in old times, if one trusts the amount of place names being called after him. But as mentioned, in Norse matters, he is considered as being of the Æsir. I will revert your edit, and I hope you understand why. Cheers, –Holt T•C 21:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Is the Edda as clear as you say? I mean:

Ýdalir heita,

þar er Ullr hefir

sér of görva sali;

Alfheim Frey

gáfu í árdaga

tívar at tannféi.

And he is constantly associated with elves, which as you probably know, is perceived as related to the Vanirs. //Heimvennar - divider 12:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I am not trying to contradict you in any way, I'm sorry if it seems like it. But the template (as it is now) only lists the ones that "clearly" are of the Vanir, the case of Ullr is vague, as we both know. I think he ought to be there, but in the main literature (the Prose Edda) does not link him directly with the Vanir, despite all obvious associations, as far as I know. So I suggest that we try to improve the Ullr article instead, trying to emphasize his apparent Vanir-like traits. What do you think? –Holt T•C 14:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Well my point was that he is not directly associated with the Æsir, either, and having him listed as an one of the Æsir is not ideal. Especially not given what Simple English Wiki says and the topic itself. Perhaps the template shouldn't divide the gods in Vanir/Æsir? //Heimvennar - divider 15:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

[outdent] You're onto something there. I gave it all some thought, and I realize now that Ullr should probably be listed among the Vanir. Sorry for bothering you with my disagreement. New approach: List Ullr as Vanir and give a thorough explanation in his article? I am still slightly undecided. I think the template should list Æsir and Vanir separately, even though it causes implications with cases like this. –Holt T•C 10:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

To jump out of the shadows, I would like to comment that who belongs/belonged to the Vanir as opposed to the Æsir is not exactly (with a few exceptions) clear in surviving sources and, after the Æsir-Vanir War it seems the now-united gods were simply all referred to as "Æsir" thereafter with some commentary regarding the position they held amongst the Vanir at another time appearing now and then. There's a strong case that Heimdallr, for example, was originally Vanir but lack of surviving source material doesn't back it and so we can't state it - just that it's a theory. We can't just make presumptive guesses about this and indulge in original research (WP:OR) - if there's no direct attestation of a god being listed as Vanir, we need to simply list them as Æsir. :bloodofox: (talk) 17:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright, so that means the template is based on direct sources, not theories and common understanding, which settles this conversation. I don't like how the Ullr article is now, so I'll try to get around and edit some there, and I hope you do the same. –Holt T•C 18:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Parishes and Hundreds

I agree that the geographic subdivisions should not be merged, the links in Swedish wikipedia now don't link properly. I just returned from Lulea, Sweden. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 20:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Rodon

If someone was buried in Rodon, what church should I contact to see if a tombstone still exists? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 11:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I assume you mean Rödön, here's its official website and under "Personal" you'll find email addresses to the priest, deacon and janitor (sv: vaktmästare). If the tombstone still exist it is probably located at "Rödö kyrka" though I'm certainly no expert on these matters as I've never done any research regarding my ancestry. //Heimvennar - divider 11:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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