Helenluna

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Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal

I'm afraid you are just a day or so premature with this. I don't know how much of the history you have been following, but as a result of this deletion discussion the article was merged to Guns N' Roses, and when that decision was disputed a copy was placed in the WP:Article Incubator for development. That version has been improved and is now ready for return to the main space; we cannot simply replace it with yours because that would lose the edit history of the contributions made there, which we are required by the license terms to maintain. So within the next day I shall restore the Incubator version, complete with its edit history, and you can then edit that with any improvements you have in mind. I have placed a copy of yours in your user space at User:Helenluna/Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal in case that is useful to you for moving to the restored article any improvements in your version (I have not had time to compare the texts in detail). Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:07, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

The incubator version has now been restored and you are welcome to edit it if you have improvements to make. When you have no further use for the "userfied" version at User:Helenluna/Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, would you be kind enough to put {{db-u1}} (two curly brackets each side) so that it can be deleted? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I see that you are editing on behalf of Ron, and that you are a newbie; please do not be offended if I gently remind you that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a fan-site, and point you to some of the policies and guidelines that help to keep it that way:

• WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest
• WP:Verifiability - it's not whether you believe something is true, it's whether you can cite a reliable source for it
• WP:Ownership of articles - nobody, certainly not the subject of an article, can control its content or insist on a particular version
• WP:Neutral point of view

Finally, a small point of Wikipedia technique - in these talk page discussions (but not in articles) it helps to know who said what when; if you end a post with four "tilde" signs ~~~~, the system will turn them intoa "signature" with your username and the time and date - like this: JohnCD (talk) 14:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware that this is an encyclopedia, and that's why I was concerned to restore the original article, since its merge with the Guns n' Roses page was making Ron's solo career something non-existent, which was a clear lie. My intent is to add citations and those reliable sources needed to all that I add in the future and to what's already there. I will not be a fan here, but instead I'm limiting myself to facts about Ron Thal. I'll have time to work on the citations after the holidays. See you then! Helenluna (talk) 19:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Helen, thanks for helping with this. I don't know why but things happened the wrong way on wikipedia so I had to fight a lot against people who did not seem to be listening that well in order to get his article restored. Hopefully it won't happen again! Aisha9152 (talk) 18:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Helenluna/Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal

Hi. This is just a tidy-up to remove the draft article which I put in your user space back in December. Here is the formal notice:

User:Helenluna/Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Helenluna/Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Helenluna/Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)