Helminth
Helminth
Thanks for your work re: Melb Trails. Do you feel like creating pages for all the red links (Trails) I've added???
Then maybe add a call to all BV people to fill in the pages ?? !!
See: http://www.bv.com.au/forums/
All of Melb. could be done in an afternoon!!
eg this guy knows the north end of the Dandenong Creek Trail well: http://members.iinet.net.au/~jdekter/commute/commute.html
These people have good pics of the Anniversary Trail and Capital City Trail: http://www.weaselsnout.net/web/pics.nsf/albums/MARR-6P7BZW
And this guy has done some nice work on the Gardiners Creek Trail: http://treadly.thingoid.com/2007/01/12/photos-of-my-commute-route/
And what about these quys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxrp-_zZGlE
I figure the Blind Creek Trail could act as a template for all the trails - what do you think?? I would also like to see a page that shows the whole network with a map and a page that talks about what needs to be improved or plans in progress or the like. eg Darebin Creek trail to be extended to Yarra River Trail. Skeleton Creek trail to be connected to Federation Trail, etc.
I took up cycling (again) about a year ago and was astounded by the lack of maps and directions re trails in Melb. Since then I have ridden most of them.
Regards
138.217.35.170
- Wow - you've done some real thinking about this! Sounds like an excellent plan. What about a WikiProject ("Cycling in Melbourne" or "Melbourne Bicycle Trails")? I'd also add creating maps (possibly printable versions too?) - I spent some time playing around making the maps for Scotchmans Creek Trail; they could probably be improved but I thought they were a good starting point. The overview information could probably go on a page with the same name as the project.
- I also got back into cycling about a year ago but haven't had a chance to explore too many trails yet, but agree that a lot of the information isn't up to scratch. Helminth 21:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Helminth
I haven't an account with Wikipedia and at the moment I'm feeling "anonymous". However, if you create the pages (see templates below) I will try and come up with some text. Then others will be able to express their general disgust and correct it all!! It's just a matter of clicking on a red link and hitting the "create" link - hah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bicycle_Trails_in_Melbourne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cycling_in_Melbourne
Roger on the maps - it's a major problem. I would like to use Google Earth in some way - see:
http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
and "Wikipedia and Panoramio mashup"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Earth_4
It scraps Wikipedia for Lat/Longs templates and then shows Wikipedia icons in situ - see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dights_Falls
and look at the Lat/Long co-ords in the top right corner.
It uses this template (look at the edit page):
37°47′50″S 145°00′03″E / 37.79722°S 145.00083°E
If the same could be done for a path rather than a point, we would have it made. Then GPS info from http://www.bikely.com/ could be used. But that's not going to happen real soon - I suspect people are interested in doing same.
See with Google Earth installed on your PC:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/world-link.php?lang=en
How did you make your map without copyright problems?#$!! - I thought it was a pretty good effort.
Hoping you get this message and it makes some sense to you - still trying to get all this Wikipedia stuff worked out myself. If you want to start a WikiProject go for it. How about "Cycling in Victoria, Australia". However, I think it's more about getting as much collaboration fronm as many people/cyclists as possible - as per my first post above.
Regards
138.217.35.170
I've started creating pages from templates. Will take me a while to get through them as I'm pretty busy at the moment with life.
I created my maps from scratch to avoid any copyright problems. I couldn't actually do the same for a trail that I didn't know so well - I ride Scotchmans Creek Trail every day so I know it pretty well. The Victorian Government's land channel interactive map is great for confirming road names (and is much more accurate then google maps) but local knowledge is always the best way.
Helminth 02:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello! Did you consider putting {{Expand}} at the top of the trail stubs you're creating to help get other people to possibly edit them too, or do you plan on going back to edit them on your own? Just a friendly question. :) --Strangerer 00:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm still learning about wikipedia, so thanks for the Expand tip. I didn't plan on editing them all on my own so they could all do with this. Helminth 00:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I've been thinking about maps and after the labour intensive effort in creating the Scotchmans Creek maps I found the OpenStreetMap project which is probably a good way to create Open Source maps. I'll see if this is a workable solution.
Hi Helminth
Thanks for correcting some of my typos and creating pages for the trails in Melbourne. It has been a great help. Feel like creating some more? See the redlinks in:
Template:Bicycle_Trails_in_Melbourne
Template:Cycling in Melbourne
Also "Amy's Ride" and "Oppy Family Fun Ride" in the later, are linked to inappropriate pages and need their own pages as well. I'm not to sure if all this stuff I have being doing suits an encyclopedia and one editor tried to revert some of my edits - but it's still all there !! You make the pages and I will try and add something useful to them. Alternatively you may reckon I need a user name - that's not going to happen.
Some guy wacked in a photo of the Dandenong Creek Trail and another did some work on the Belgrave Rail Trail, which is all good. In fact the later did a great 3d model of Ferntreegully Staion for Google Eart - why - I don't know but he even has the tickect machines and the poatoe chip packet dispensers modelled - all quiet amazing. This may come up with the correct link:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d32186f10846361a14914d5fa5796c62
The page for the Outer Circle Trail, also known as the Anniversary Trail or "Anniversary Outer Circle Trail" should probably be renamed to the "Anniversary Outer Circle Trail" and all links altered accordingly.
A great day to-day - went to Sandringham station and rode the Bayside Trail and the Sandridge Trail into the CBD. Have to confess I'm getting a bit burnt out writing about the trails!
If you have any comments or want changes let me know.
Regards
144.132.69.183 - was 138.217.35.170 (may change again)
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