Iran Air Tours

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Why are you claiming that "months of tireless collaboration" has gone into the Iran Air Tours article? You have had an account for one day. Do not undo edits that fixed mistakes; fixed referencing errors; brought the article into line with guidelines and policies; and added referenced information. YSSYguy (talk) 04:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


Please stop abusing me sir this is a website built upon collaboration and teamwork. Strong terms you direct at me only worsen the communication link between the two of us and the rest of this community. This article was in perfect shape before you started misediting bits of it and as a conscientious Wikipedian it is my utmost remit and duty to protect pages from acts of destruction and vandalism. Respect this community and the tireless work please.

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 04:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

What "abuse"? What "strong terms" have I directed at you? What "perfect shape"? What "misediting"? What "destruction"? What "vandalism"? What "tireless work" - you haven't done anything except undo good edits that you don't like for some unknown reason. Provide some valid reasons for your actions instead of unjustified accusations. YSSYguy (talk) 04:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


Sir if you feel unable to behave yourself in a civil and orderly fashion in an environment such as Wikipedia, where individuals treat one another as equal and worthy of respect, then I'm afraid I'll have nothing to add to this conversation. Your misedits are simply taking this page out of the standard shape recognized by Wikipedian authorities and will only deteriorate the quality and Wikiworthiness of the page. And your abuse and constant insults hurled at me will only serve to impede the teamwork and cooperation spirit that is at the very core and soul of this foundation. Thanks.

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 05:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

You must be confusing me with somebody else; what "abuse and constant insults" are you referring to? As a Wikipedia editor you did not exist until about fifteen hours ago; since then we have interacted on one article, where my edit summaries are as follows:
  • ‎"Incidents and accidents: ref formatting"
  • "‎Incidents and accidents: copyedits"
  • "‎Incidents and accidents: in-ref WLs"
  • "Undid last two edits - overlinking, MOSNUMBER, ref floating in air not attached to any text; Harro Ranter is not necessarily the author of ASN database entries"
  • "Cleanup and fixes: overlinking, MOSFLAG, WP:ACCESS, we do not list IATA or ICAO airport codes in destination tables, copyedits, updated fleet details, formatted ref used multiple times etc."
  • "Fleet: added previously operated, added images, table tweaks"
  • "Copyedits, arranged Destinations table country-city per project style guide"
  • "Tabriz was listed twice, no citation needed"
If you are seeing abuse, or uncivil and disorderly behavior, in those edit summaries or in what I have posted here, I cannot help you with that. YSSYguy (talk) 05:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


I'm really sorry sir I'd have loved to have confused you with someone else but unfortunately no. As a man of substance, who by the way values and cherishes sincere and insightful contributions to this much-loved foundation, I cannot help but reject and uncompromisingly block your rather unhelpful edits which border on vandalism. My dear friend, WIkipedians like us, have a unique responsibility above anything else and that is keeping this website clean, factual, and free of speculative and non-factual assumptions. If I now cave in to the intimidation and atmosphere of coercion and threat brought about by your recent misdemeanours on this page, then history will make a scathing judgement of my actions in the form of dereliction of duties. Thanks my friend. Keep safe.

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 06:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Oh, and I also wish you and your family a very merry Christmas.

Heretohelpwithit (talk)

What are you talking about? Do not make accusations without evidence. I added images of Iran Air Tours aircraft to the article; you removed them, claiming I committed vandalism. I added sourced information about the airline having operated an Airbus A310 and A320s; you removed that, claiming I committed vandalism. I added sourced information about the airline now operating Boeing 737s; you removed that, claiming I committed vandalism. I correctly formatted a reference that had been used twice; you undid that, claiming I committed vandalism. I added sourced information stating the airline has had only three fatal accidents; you removed that, claiming I committed vandalism. Tabriz Airport was mentioned as a focus city twice in the infobox and I removed one of those listings; you put it back in - twice - (this edit and this edit), claiming I committed vandalism. Please point out to me where is the actual vandalism or where is the actual abuse and constant insults you claim I have perpetrated upon you? YSSYguy (talk) 06:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Look my friend, I always treated you with respect and dignity. I even wished you a very merry Christmas. This is the tone, this is the language I'm communicating with you through. But now look how you try to impart your opinions, full of abuse, full of anger, full of disdain and disregard for basic standards of politeness, courtesy and propriety that have long formed the centerstone of what Wikipedia was eventually built upon. It's only through thoughtful and profound dialogue that two can achieve everlasting agreement on any given topic. Resentment, anger and evading a constructive conversation will only serve to diminish the prospects of an all-embracing resolution amongst all parties to this dispute. We, the proponents of a fair and free encyclopedia, must all, men and women, children and adults, strive to leave aside every bit of the deep-seated prejudice , bitterness and irritation in order to help realize one of the grandest projects of humankind in the history: building a free and accurate source of knowledge for everyone. Respect my friend. Merry Christmas again to you and we welcome your ever-increasing contributions to this ambitious project :)

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 07:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

It is very telling that you will not answer any of my questions - because you cannot give a decent answer. YSSYguy (talk) 09:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


Oh I wonder who is accusing other people without 'evidence'. You just accused me of being 'incapable of giving decent answers'. That is extremely rude and you need to apologise profusely. This is not how Wikipedia expects its contributors to behave my friend. Accusing me of unsubstantiated made up stuff is very unprofessional and punishable by the rules of Wikipedia. I request administrators block your offensive account for a good period of time as a lesson. Thanks. Merry Christmas again.

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 10:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I didn't say you are incapable of giving decent answers, I said that decent answers do not exist. YSSYguy (talk) 10:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


Oh yes they do exist abundantly, you only need to scroll down this same page as a proof.

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 10:57, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Nope, I have read this page in detail - no answers, just your unjustifiable accusations and pretending you have been wronged by me. YSSYguy (talk) 11:00, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Well maybe you need to start entertaining the idea that I have actually been harassed and abused and wronged by you in this traditionally civilised and peaceful community?

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 11:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Well point it out then. Ten hours ago I had had no interaction with you - your account did not exist until today - and there is nothing bad here or in my edit summaries at the Iran Air Tours article. So, it is well-and-truly time to substantiate your claims with evidence. YSSYguy (talk) 11:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I don't have to provide proof for inaccurate, faulty and defective edits of yours on this article twice. Assuming you possess a minimum level of human intelligence, which I believe you do, it should be an easy task for you to appreciate the poor and unacceptable level of your editorial efforts by learning some lessons from the reasons presented above. You'll learn, I'm sure. Respect is the key on this website my dear friend. If you treat fellow Wikipedians with aggression and hostility not everyone is gonna react as nicely as I am doing.

Heretohelpwithit (talk) 11:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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