Hishamzoubeir

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November 2010

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Tahir Abbas, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of H. A. Hellyer for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article H. A. Hellyer is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H. A. Hellyer until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Subject's name in H. A. Hellyer

Hallo, I think you'll have seen that I have done a substantial amount of work to attempt to save H. A. Hellyer, including looking up and checking many of the facts and adding citations, without which the article would undoubtedly be deleted in the AfD process it is now going through.

I note that you have reverted my apparently correctly cited edit to the article listing the subject's name, on the grounds that the book was withdrawn from publication. However it is extremely unlikely that the citation is wrong about Hellyer's forenames, as this was a title listed for publication and the publisher would certainly have obtained the correct names for contract purposes. Therefore this should be a reliable source. Since it is usual for articles on people to state their full names, I would like to propose reinstating them. Please let me know your thoughts on the matter so that we can agree the way ahead. with best wishes Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:28, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, Chiswick Chap! I'm not sure if I am doing this right, as I've never done a 'chat' like this before :-) But here goes: the book does not seem to have been withdrawn from publication, but, rather was never published. There's no record anywhere of IB Tauris ever publishing this book with this title or with this author. These seller websites do exist, obviously, but no book (and I saw on the sites that it was supposedly published 2006?) Since there's no actual book that was ever published with an author with this name, and all these other websites seem to show just H.A. Hellyer, I think there's probably more grounds for just leaving it as H.A. Hellyer. I reckon that if the article does survive, there will be other sources in the public domain that show definitively what H.A. stands for, and we can just go and do it then? What do you think?

Thanks for reaching out like this --- I've never engaged with wikipedia like this before, and you've made my first real interaction very pleasant indeed! (talk) 6 March 2012

My pleasure, Wikipedia should be a place of intelligently encyclopedic discussion, which is isn't always. OK, I'll leave it at least until the AfD process is completed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2012 (UTC)