Historian John Albert U.K

July 2021

Hello, I'm Sjö. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Neustria, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sjö (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Sjö. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Manuel of Castile have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. There is also WP:UNDUE and WP:FRINGE to consider. WP:UNDUE says in a nutshell that the viewpoints in an article should be presented in proportion to their prominence in published, reliable sources. That means that something that is not at all present in such sources probably should not be included in an article. WP:FRINGE says that viewpoints that are not held by a majority of scholars in the field should not be given undue weight. It appears to be the case here, where your addition of members to extinct family seems to contradict the scholarly consensus. Sjö (talk) 08:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello Sjö, Thank you for responding, with all due respect an article that deals with a person who has descendants until today, just check several articles published by genealogists, it does not seem right to say that it contradicted the books, on the contrary it was joined source of the Holy Bulgarian Church. The church today is the highest authority on royal genealogy, so much so that historically it blessed kings and queens, I believe my work was wrongly ignored. About the subject being relevant, the article itself points to descendants.One detail of extreme importance, the article does not say that his family is extinct, or cite any source that states this.I wish you a great week and a fraternal hug I would be very grateful for a reply.I would love to contribute articles on the monarchy, I am a teacher with a degree in History, and a language translator.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Historian John Albert U.K (talk • contribs)

I might have misinterpreted the sentence "The last member of the dynasty was Manfred's son, Henry [Enrico], who died in captivity at Castel dell'Ovo on 31 October 1318." However, that does not mean that the sources you add are reliable. The "Vetus bulgarica ecclesiae catholicae" does not seem to exist outside of Facebook and sovereign-order.uk, the website you linked to in an earlier (now deleted) post. It is probably the same as the Bulgarian Old Catholic Church which appears to be a small organization and there is nothing that shows that it is an authority on genealogy. And frankly, if a monarch had been restored it would have been big news and it would be easy to find supporting sources in mass media. I think that your efforts here are misguided and I must ask that you do not add text that is not supported by reliable sources (see WP:RS).

If you think that I am wrong and that the sources you add are reliable and do support your edits, you can always ask for other editors' views and input at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Sjö (talk) 07:53, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Dear Sjö, I believe that I have expressed myself in a wrong or misunderstood way, I currently take care of my child with special needs, I am 71 years old, retired elderly and passionate about literature, besides my degree in history, I'm a member of important historical institutions that prefer not to have websites or draw attention, I understood all your words and thank you so much for answering and teaching me the rules and the correct way to add text and fonts. When I referred to descendants for this article, it was through collateral lines, a great example is the current King Harald V of Norway, who has his lineage cataloged back to the Harald Fairhair, but obviously by sidelines. About reinstated monarchs, frankly literature itself teaches us that:

“According to pacific international jurisprudence, the “Fons Honorum” or “fountains of honor” are the persons and/or entities that hold the exclusive prerogative of bestowing titles of nobility and honors legally as subjects of international law. These persons by origin, or ministry, must possess the attributes that constitute the sovereignty.

 

They are:

– Heads of State (both monarchists or republican – although the republicans cannot confer “nobility titles”, only meritorious awards),

– Heads of Dynasties (deposed monarchies) since it’s internationally accepted that they preserve the “Jus Conferendi” even being dispossessed of their thrones,

– Heads of Traditional Christian Churches (both Roman Catholic and Orthodox) following authentic apostolic succession. In other words, the Head of the church should prove direct lineage of ordination from one of the original apostles

Ceasing territorial power, the monarch loses effective control of (“Jus Imperii” – the right to govern a State and people and “Jus Gladii” the right to command an army), retaining, however, the dynastic prerogatives (“Jus Majestatis” and “Jus Honorum”), which, as already stated, are intrinsic to his/her person. Assuming, then, the title of ‘Chief of the Name and Arms of the Royal House’ of his country. While this condition is recognized by the international tradition, like “pretender” to the vacant throne of his country, and among his dynastic power, are to judge the claims around titles of nobility in his jurisdiction, recognize them, validate them, as well as create and bestow new titles in his sole discretion”

An excellent case, which was even the target of legal action in Italy, was the case of Prince Don Thorbjorn Paternò, in addition to being restored as monarch of his royal house, he had his right recognized by the Italian court, but this news did not circulate in the media , and practically went unnoticed for political reasons.

Please remove the website address of the sovereign order and the Bulgarian church as they are protected by copyright and can only be used in sources after authorization. Fraternal hug and wishes for a great day.

SMIB— Preceding unsigned comment added by Historian John Albert U.K (talk • contribs)

None of that changes the Wikipedia policy about the need for verifiability. Exceptional claims need exceptional sourcing, and the sources you have used so far fall well short of being acceptable as sources on Wikipedia. Sjö (talk) 20:14, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright

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Hello,Thank you very much for the invitation, I am a graduate in history, and translator of ancient languages, I would be very happy to be able to contribute, I am elderly and retired, with a lot of free time.