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Otaku

"Rv" means revert, see Help:Reverting.

There were several issues with the text at the top. References should go in a references section at the bottom. They shouldn't be added above the introduction paragraph. Email addresses aren't appropriate (this is an encyclopedic article, it's supposed to be "timeless"). Bolding parts of sentenes to emphasize a point is almost never done, see the Manual of Style.

Things that are propogated by China BBS and forums anen't necessarily encyclopedic. very significant internet memes are sometimes allowed [1], but it's less encyclopedic than other parts of the Otaku article, and again, should not be inserted before the introductory paragraph of the article.

Information added to Wikipedia also needs to be widely accepted... if certain facts are only accepted by a small group of people, they shouldn't be added (see Wikipedia:No original research). If there is a dispute over whether information is original research (as there seems to be), you'll be asked to cite Wikipedia:reliable sources to back up the claims made.

Regarding your user page (User:Hkcbgcs)... we try to maintain a more professional atmosphere here, and it may be better if you don't have statements like you currently do on your main page. Racial discrimination isn't tolerated here, but I honestly don't see where Paul has made any discriminatory comments. Please assume good faith unless you have evidence to the contrary. If you have disputes with other editors, please discuss and try to resolve the disputes rather than increasing them.

Paul's "holy crap" statement might have been a bit uncivil, but I also think that the text needs a lot of work before it should be added back to the article. --Interiot 12:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

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Yes...I agree so because some of the definitions of otakus bias each other, causing conflicts easily. So far it is better for me to follow what general public accepted as to the meaning of "otakus" in order not to make mess again. An better approach for me is to do more researches about it in the field of social science, and the relevent articles might have the external URL linked to wikipedia some day. Maybe "otakuism", like "green chemistry", is an appreciable coined terms in the tower of ivory, which summarizes what work otakus have done in current society . Anyway, thank you for your great help! :)--Hkcbgcs 23:55, 26 August 2006 (GMT +8:00)

Hi, you sent me a message and reverted my edits to the "Otaku" article. I am sorry to offend you, but your article is unreadable by native English speakers. Please edit versions of the article in the language(s) you can use fluently.. Are you using some kind of online translator? Even the paragraph you wrote in your answer above is not English. I would not attempt to edit, for example, the Chinese version of the article unless I could use Chinese to native level. Please extend the same courtesy to the English version. Your edits are not "hard to read", they are simply not English. For example these 2 lines>>>>>>>

Maybe "otakuism", like "green chemistry", is an appreciable coined terms in the tower of ivory, which summarizes what work otakus have done in current society .

That sentence is not English. It uses English *words*, but it is nonsense. All of your edits to the article were like that. I am not saying this to offend you, but as I said, your article is unreadable by *English speakers*. Please edit the article in your own language(s).

Re:User page reversion

You can request an Editor review where other editors can give you feedback on you - Wikipedia:Editor review. --Sagaciousuk ^(talk) 16:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

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Oh I see. So that possibilities of edit conflicts can be reduced. --Hkcbgcs 00:21, 27 August 2006 (GMT +8:00)

Otaku

Hello Hkcbgcs. If you would not mind, please do not "top post" to talk page; kindly add your comments to the end. As for the Otaku article, the reason this was reverted was that there was no source immediately cited after the claim -- just something randomly placed in the external links section. Upon further review, I am not sure whether or not cabeat.com qualifies as a reliable source. Is this site a reputable news organization, a blog, a personal website, or something else? What would be most helpful for this sort of content would be one or more mainstream references, such as a magazine article or book related to the subject. If cabeat is in deed a reliable source then please accept my apologies. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Otaku

Hello Hkcbgcs. If you would not mind, please do not "top post" to talk page; kindly add your comments to the end. As for the Otaku article, the reason this was reverted was that there was no source immediately cited after the claim -- just something randomly placed in the external links section. Upon further review, I am not sure whether or not cabeat.com qualifies as a reliable source. Is this site a reputable news organization, a blog, a personal website, or something else? What would be most helpful for this sort of content would be one or more mainstream references, such as a magazine article or book related to the subject. If cabeat is in deed a reliable source then please accept my apologies. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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okey. cabeat.com is build by the anime fans studying Japanese studies under the subsidy of The University of Hong Kong and Chinese University of Hong Kong, and the aim of the website is to provide objective exposition of phenomenons about ACG. So do you think the source is reliable enough? nexttime I will pay especiall attention on citing the source to reduce the chance of sudden RVs that scare me a lot. Anyway, I would like to declare that I would never treat simple blog entries as sources, except for celebrities (eg: the Chief Executive in HKSAR).

Hkcbgcs 17:38, 1 September 2006 (GMT +8:00)

otaku

I have no knowledge of anime/manga, aside from loving Spirited Away, but I will try to help with editing issues. You should try to use the <ref></ref> tag for sources.

The disagreements about your page look... at least they appear to be done in good faith. I don't think people are vandalizing your page. I think people are disagreeing with you, but are acting in good faith while doing so. Ling.Nut 13:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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Simply their ignorance of Chinese Language incur many deletion (alleged by RV) of otaku page, even when refrence is made. So I will no longer contribute to the otak page to avoid waste of time. Instead, I will put the most importsnt deleted element "Otakuism" to the Asian Study Centre in The University of Hong Kong.

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