Horia mar
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Grenfell talk page and Lancaster West Estate
editThank you for bringing your architects view to the Grenfell talk page. It would be expected that technical detail was over-scruntinised by wiki-experienced members of the community but I found your descriptions and clear and informative. I have laid of editing such a high-profile article and contributed instead by trying to add something to Lancaster West Estate article. What was there was predictable- Brutalist therefore it must be horrid - and an estate so it must promote drugs, gang fights and ungodliness. You know the stereotypes. I have shoved in a lot of context. Time consuming but easy. Now am looking for architectural detail about the design of the estate and ( Grenfell Tower has its own article) the low-rise blocks. Have you anything you can add to Lancaster_West_Estate#Construction. I just don't have the sources. If you have any copyright free plans, sections, or links to plans, I can work on them- or you can write it yourself because life is a lot more relaxed on a low profile page.ClemRutter (talk) 12:17, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- Dear ClemRutter, thank you for your kind message and sympathy! :)
- As I am an architect in Austria, I have no direct connection to the UK planning scene or critics/architecture historians. So I cannot help you directly. I am writing also architectural critique or participating to competition jurys, but not in/about the UK. But I like the british brutalist style and the whole context of the time (social, etc.) is higly interesting. I came back to wikipedia these days, after many years, because I was impressed and angry, because of the Grenfell fire tragedy. So I just thought to bring here some informations I found and understood (from various sources) that could be useful, in case anybody would like to utilise them.
- But the Lancaster West Estate seems to be a very interesting story, symptomatic for the time and the use of brutalism in state financed social housing. I took a short trip with google and found it is a very nice place, with a good feeling and a lot of green and buildings that are pleasant and create a place with good living quality. I hope very much they don't destroy its qualities by "upgrading" its thermal insulation and "renovating" it, as they did with the Grenfell Tower.
- In fact, the Grenfell Tower was a nice design, in its category and style and time. It is for shure that the council destroyed a cultural quality of that building by renovating it. I am convinced that everybody acted with best intentions and in all conscience. But the truth is that these renovations with metal cladding, done in lots of places on earth, are a shame. They reduce the historical quality of buildings to a kind of simulacrum of "quality" and "upgrading". I am shure that in 20 years these renovations will be considered the most embarrasing things. This is an irony of fate, because NOT renovating Grenfell tower would have saved two things at once: the lives of so many people AND the local architectural culture of that place and surroundings.
- In this same idea, I hope that the qualities of the Lancaster West Estate will be recognised and conserved before somebody comes to the idea to renovate the whole thing in a similar way as the tower.
- If I can be of any help, from a distance, I can gladly give any council to you.
- I stumbled upon an artists blog that seems to love the Lancaster Est., and he wrote some interesting things about it, here: http://www.grasart.com/blog/lancaster-west-estate-an-ideal-for-living (perhaps you already know it!). He obviously was appointed as an artist by the local council, for working for/with the people there, and tells some interesting stories and insights. It is worth reading, especially for you, as you have a deeper insight on that area (be it social or architectural). It shows also some historic photos from the time after the building of the Lanc.W.Est., architectural plans and models of the area, etc.
- I appreciated the social and cultural connections you did in the article about Lancaster Est., this is very important - to talk not only about buildings and architecture, but of the whole cultural/historical context. --Horia mar (talk) 19:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
The article Ruxandra Donose has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Promotional biography
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- Could you please specify what are the official reasons that make you consider an article to be "promotional"?
Ruxandra Donose is the most famous mezzo from Romania and one of the best in the world today. This is easily provable. So if a person has such a notoriety, it is funny to call the article "promotional". Such a person really does not need promotion. She is anyway at the end of her long lasting career, so why should she try to promote herself? --Horia mar (talk) 09:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)