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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! _nonsense ferret 00:07, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Robert Cockburn

This would be a great article - but you've submitted it twice with large sections copied from the obits - copyright violations are taken seriously here, please rewrite it in your own words. Reviewers must and do check, and continued copyright violations may result in blocks from editing. --_nonsense ferret 00:14, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm genuinely confused, but this is my first article so that's probably why. One quote was copied from an obituary, and clearly marked as such - but this was removed from the second version. One other section was copied from an existing Wikipedia article, which I thought was OK. Nothing else has been copied, but maybe it was judged as being too similar to the original content? Can you clarify for me? Huntfelman (talk) 07:21, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

The wording of the obituary was used directly in places in the article in places without being clearly "marked as a quote". The use of quotes should be very selective and clearly identified as such, and copying paragraphs or sentences of the obituary into an article does cause us lots of problems. I was very unhappy about having to decline the article as I think the subject is very interesting and definitely should be in here, but please just make sure that when you resubmit it there won't be any wording anywhere in the article that is too similar to the sources - reviewers are obliged to check and read them side-by-side. I hope this makes sense --_nonsense ferret 13:51, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you; I'll redraft it with that in mind. I guess the quote (clearly marked as such) would be OK then? Huntfelman (talk) 19:09, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

very selective use of short quotes to illustrate the key point that someone has said can be helpful in articles and add a bit of colour for the reader - if it is overdone, then it tends to detract a lot from the article. I personally sometimes use them if there is opinion about a person - "best ferret that ever lived" for example - which cannot be directly written in the article as that would be expressing an opinion, but if someone influential said it, then a quote by them is entirely permitted. Purely factual things "this ferret was 80 years old" - better to be in your own words. I hope that makes sense. --_nonsense ferret 19:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Article is redrafted here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Robert_Cockburn. Having reviewed it, I see the problem and have changed the problematical paragraphs; hopefully it now works.Huntfelman (talk) 07:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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