User talk:IJReid/Google Books trick

Books liberated

Google Books made freely available

Date	User	Author	Date of Death	Book title	Publication year	URL
August 2016	User:IJReid	Frederick Rogers	1915	Labour, Life and Literature: Some Memories of Sixty Years	1913	[1]
August 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Henry Raynor Goulding, Thomas Henry Thornton	1934, 1915	Old Lahore: Reminiscences of a Resident	1924	[2]
August 2016	User:Spinster	M.M. Kleerkoper, W.P. van Stockum Jr.	both pre-1920	De boekhandel te Amsterdam voornamelijk in de 17e eeuw	1914	[3]
August 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Thomas Henry Thornton	1913	Colonel Sir Robert Sandeman: His Life and Work on Our Indian Frontier	1895	[4]
August 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Thomas Henry Thornton	1913	General Sir Richard Meade and the Feudatory States of Central and Southern India	1898	[5]
October 2016	User:MrLinkinPark333	Antonín Bečvář	1965	Atlas coeli Skalnaté Pleso II.: Katalog 1950.0	1951	[6]

Google Books for which requests have been made

Date	User	Author	Date of Death	Book title	Publication year	URL
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Frederick Roberts, 1st Earl Roberts	1914	Forty-one Years in India: From Subaltern to Commander-in-chief	1896	[7]
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Florence Miller	1935	Harriet Martineau	1889	[8]
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Florence Miller	1935	Readings in Social Economy	1883	[9]
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Florence Miller	1935	Animal Physiology for Elementary Schools	1885	[10]
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Florence Miller	1935	On the Programme of the Women's Franchise League	1890	[11]
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Florence Miller	1935	The Lessons of a Life: Harriet Martineau. A Lecture, Etc	1877	[12]
September 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Philip Thicknesse	1792	Man-midwifery Analysed: And the Tendency of that Practice Detected and Exposed	Three editions, 1764, 1768, 1790	[13], [14], [15]
October 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Sake Dean Mahomed	1851	Shampooing; or, Benefits resulting from the use of the Indian Medicated Bath	1794	[16]

Google Books for which requests were refused

Date	User	Author	Date of Death	Book title	Publication year	URL	Refusal reason
August 2016	User:Tagishsimon	Frederick Roberts, 1st Earl Roberts	1914	Forty-one Years in India: From Subaltern to Commander-in-chief	1896	[17]	Availability controlled by 2005 re-publishers :{

Discussion

Talk page for my Google books trick, not sure if there are any templates I need to put up or what. IJReid ^discuss 02:16, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

That's an excellent start; as you say, somewhat wall-of-text, but I grokked it with ease and was able to find the right bits of googlebooks to do it for real. Thank you. The essence, as you say, is to construct as persuasive and learned an argument as possible for the book being PD, which will tend to revolve around being able to point to the applicable law, and the facts which make that law applicable - place of publication, date of publication, date of author death, evidence of lack of renewal of copyright, &c. We might work on providing some cut & pasteable wording for common situations - UK old books, US old books, US recent but not copyright-renewed books - with perhaps useful pointers to wikipedia and national government copyright resources (e.g. in the UK, to the prevailing copyright act). It's possible that a less whimsical version of the advice could be put together, with a more sober title - Google Books Copyright Review - (which seems a shame, really). Then we need to find a place or two from which to link to it. I'm not minded to start that effort tonight, but I'll return in the next few days. I think I'll spend a little time starting the liberation of some books. T'other thing we could do is start a page with a table logging books for which requests have been made, if only as another resource we can point people to, and a useful locus for bragging. Insofar as Google sponsors the Google Data Liberation Front, we might wish to consider flying this whole contraption under a Google Books Copyright Liberation Front banner. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

My first attempt

Text for my attempt to free Old Lahore: Reminiscences of a Resident, made just now --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:01, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Would you consider making this fully viewable, please. Evidence it is in the public domain is: Old Lahore: Reminiscences of a Resident: - published in Lahore (now Pakistan) in 1924 (then British India), becomes PD on: - life+70 years (if UK law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_Kingdom ) - life+60 (if Indian law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_India ) - life+50 (if Pakistan law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_Pakistan ) Henry Raynor Goulding died 1934 (reference: Kipling Society, Kipling Journal, September 1984 - http://www.kiplingjournal.com/textfiles/KJ231.txt ) Thomas Henry Thornton died in 1913 (http://www.jstor.org/stable/25189058 , https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Thomas_Henry_Thornton) Second copy at https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PpE2SwAACAAJ Other Thornton books that might be made viewable: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mHpCAAAAIAAJ and https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=T5BCAAAAIAAJ Thanks.

That was a success. I exchanged a few emails with the googlebooks team in course of them releasing this book. They say

"We would be happy to review any publication on Google Books to see if we can make it available for full view. For the purposes of tracking these issues and adequately performing our review in a timely fashion, we ask that you please submit the books as individual cases though our Help Center HERE. This helps ensure our ability to proceed in the most efficient way possible. No research is needed on your part."

That makes it slightly easier - no need to search inside the book, and on the face of it, no need to provide evidence. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Now three books have been liberated. IJReid ^discuss 21:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Only 129,864,878 to go, then! EEng 23:18, 25 August 2016 (UTC)