Iamtanyaahogan

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions to the Jeff Oster article, but for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

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You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you so much for this 'duh Ralph' reminder as I was really aiming to write my own article but... I did THIS instead: I copy/pasted, reformed sentences and then forgot to take that all out, put it in my OWN words and then repost it. I was tired and I DO know better - I promise! :) I have written my subject and asked for permission on my new article that will fix this. Is it possible for me to send the article to you somehow so that I can see if it meets expectations before I post it? Thanks for your help, and please, don't stop sharing kindly reminders and links to where I can find the best help in doing this type of writing, okay? Once I know the rules, I usually am a pretty fun and creative person...:) Tanya --Iamtanyaahogan 19:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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Flugelhorn

Please note that I reverted your addition to flugelhorn; if wikipedia lacks a page on an individual, it is unlikely that he is notable enough to qualify for a mention on an unrelated page. Also, adding a page which includes his name as a reference appears to violate our conflict of interest guidelines, and in any case, would not count as a reliable source. If Jeff Oster eventually gets his own wikipedia page, it would require an independent, third-party source to add such a claim to flugelhorn in any case.

Thanks,

WLU 16:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Hi there, I saw that. I know there's information out there about him that will work, and when I find it, would you like me to send it to you for approval or something? Who's 'in charge' of that sort of approval? Thanks! :) --Iamtanyaahogan 19:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:RS, WP:BLP, WP:OR and WP:NPOV. Possibly WP:5P. Anyone going for long-term editing should have more than a passing familiarity with these policies. There's no 'one person' in charge of oversight, policies are our touchstone. You could post your source on Talk:Flugelhorn, but generally if no-one challenges the information, it'll stand. WLU 19:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Jeff Oster

The problem is, we really do need to delete copyright violations as soon as we find them; and in this case, I certainly wasn't going to sift through the article to determine which parts were cut-and-pasted from elsewhere and which were original work. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 17:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

If I may interject, I have recreated this article without a copyright violation and with some necessary references to help establish notability per WP:Music. Please expand/edit as you wish. Here are some links to some Wikipedia guidelines that you may find helpful: WP:RS (reliable sources), WP:V (verifiability), as well as the links in your welcome message above. Also, please follow our Neutral Point of View policy. If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Cheers. ♫ Cricket02 07:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Also very relevant is WP:BLP WLU 18:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks guys! :) I WILL be asking help because I really believe in the article but since this is my first, I don't want to screw it up and I want those that read it to be happy they did! Thanks Cricket, I really appreciate your attitude. :)--Iamtanyaahogan 18:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I just understand what you're going through. My first article was a complete mess because I was not up on the encyclopedic policies here. I have since learned a lot and try to help others where I can. Your recent edits that you have made to Oster are good, sticking to facts and not full of fluff. It is very important to note WP:NOT, (What Wikipedia is not), in that it is not a promotional site, and adhering to a Neutral Point of View at all times. I believed Oster met the inclusion requirements for notability per WP:Music. This policy should be strictly followed for any other notable artists you wish to add. A good place to look for examples of high-quality articles would be Featured articles. ♫ Cricket02 20:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 18:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• • Hm.. This is confusing to me so I'll have to study this a bit. Thanks! --Iamtanyaahogan 18:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC) ( I tried the signature icon up there... it worked! ;) )

Basically - every post on the talk page you finish with four tildes (~~~~). That way anyone reading the page in the future knows who said what. You should also space out your comments to be one colon (:) more than the point you are responding to, always post at the bottom of a page, and when the indent is

way too far over

<undent> and start over. WLU 19:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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♫ Cricket02 07:07, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

• • Thanks ;) --Iamtanyaahogan 02:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)