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December 2015

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December 2018

Hello, I'm Tarl N.. Your recent edit to the page Saturn V appears to have added incorrect information, so it has been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Tarl N. (discuss) 03:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Per WP:BRD (click on the link and read it) please take this to the talk page rather than just blindly re-introducing the change. Tarl N. (discuss) 01:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Further, please read WP:RS. forums.nasaspaceflight.com is not a reliable source by our definitions. Tarl N. (discuss) 01:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Copied from my talk page to here, to respond where the discussion is already present:

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The sources that I linked to are reliable. One source (James (Lockheed)) got the information he provided from people at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center. The other, Ed Kyle, runs http://www.spacelaunchreport.com/, and he knows far more about historical spaceflight than I ever will. The original source in the article is the only one I've ever seen that says that S-IVB-500F in on display at KSC.

Also, there are only two S-IVBs at KSC, 514 and 209 (I've seen both in person). 514 is part the display Saturn V, while 209 is on the Saturn IB at the visitors center. The Saturn V page contradicts itself with that (it says both 514 and 500F are on display at KSC, which simply isn't true). It also says further down that 514 is part of the Saturn V on display, and quotes a source from NASA.

References

• 1. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=6263.msg104353#msg104353
• 2. https://www.drewexmachina.com/2016/09/23/the-saturn-500f-the-moon-rocket-that-couldnt-fly/
• 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-500F
• 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-IVB
• 5. https://www.johnweeks.com/spacecraft/saturn_v_ksc_3.html

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The issue with your edit is that we do have a source (which meets our requirements for reliability) which says that the 3rd stage of 500F is at Kennedy. You sought to change that with sources we cannot accept. Tarl N. (discuss) 03:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

On a separate issue, some further commentary:

• If your edits are reverted, per policy of WP:BRD, you must discuss the edit on the talk page of the article before re-instating it. Simply putting the edit back is the beginning of an edit war, please read WP:3RR as to where that leads. Do note that you aren't safe if you revert fewer than three times, that's simply the red line which mandates being blocked.
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As for the overall issue with Saturn V pieces, you may indeed be correct that the wrong information is in the article. But you cannot correct it by simply stating "I know better", or pointing to a blog posting where someone else says "it's really xyz". You need more definitive documentation. Regards, Tarl N. (discuss) 03:38, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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