User talk:ImprovedWikiImprovment/Archive 2023

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X is a chemical element -> X is the chemical element

I see that you are changing the lead of many articles on chemical elements from 'X is a chemical element ...' to 'X is the chemical element ...'. Please stop. This is not an improvement. Your understanding of English may not be good enough to make this type of edits, so please consider focusing your edits on something else than language. Thanks, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 17:33, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

@Apaugasma: I understand English perfectly... "Oxygen is the element with the symbol O" makes perfect sense; it is the only element with this symbol/atmoic number, so is better than using "a". --IWI (talk) 17:35, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Please explain exactly how you think this is not an improvement; some element articles already use "the" for the same reason that I added it. --IWI (talk) 17:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Grammatically both are correct, but idiomatically 'the' is worse here. If you disagree, ask other editors about this on an appropriate talk page (the wp:onus is on you in this case to show that it is an improvement).
Meanwhile, the "improvment" instead of "improvement" in your very user name speaks volumes about your English language skills. It would help everybody if you were more honest about this (I'm not a native speaker either).
Thanks, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 17:40, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
@Apaugasma: WP:CONTENTNOTCONTRIBUTOR. And, not that it matters, but I did that on purpose. I am from the United Kingdom, and I am a native speaker of English, please do not accuse me of lying about being a native speaker, that is simply a personal attack. WP:ONUS relates to verifiability but yes, I am aware that I would now need to obtain consensus. --IWI (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
In that case, your username is unhelpfully misleading. My apologies for the mass revert, but that's just the obverse side of WP:BOLD I guess. What you changed it to just seems worse to me.
I think it's got something to do with the lead sentence generally establishing what type of thing the subject of the article is, which kind of asks for an indefinite article. What is chlorine? It's a chemical element. What kind of chemical element? Well, it's a chemical element with the symbol x and the atomic number y. Sure it's also the chemical element with that symbol and number (the one and only), but that's not what we're trying to communicate. Anyway, that's my take on it. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 18:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
@Apaugasma: You don't have to apologise for reverting me; as you said I made a bold change and you disagreed, so reverting (even on numerous articles) is okay. The lead sentence has further context than the initial few words: yes chlorine is "a chemical element", but in this sentence "chlorine is the chemical element with the symbol Cl. No other element has this symbol/atomic number, so the definitive article is appropriate and, in my view, more specific. Maybe a reader isn't aware that different elements cannot have the same atomic number. "The" does not indicate it is the only chemical element in existence, so I can't personally see an issue with switching to it (though both ways are grammatically correct). --IWI (talk) 18:20, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
As a side note, in future it is best to comment on edits a user has done rather than speculating on the user themselves; it's more productive and collaborative. --IWI (talk) 18:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
You're right, but please do realize that there are a lot of editors out there with misspelled user names who do believe they're better at English than they really are. I have dealt with so many users of this type that I sometimes forget that there are always exceptions. Anyway, my apologies for that then, I do see how it must be unpleasant for you.
As for the wording of the lead sentences, as I said, to me it's about what we're trying to communicate, which is what the subject is ("a ...") not which one from an already known category ("the ... with ..."). Of course most readers will already know that it is a chemical element, that's not the issue, but we still word things this way simply because it is encyclopedic style. For this reason most lead sentences will contain "is a ...", "was a ...", "is one of ...", etc. I see how with the chemical elements "is the" might have its advantages, but consistency with the encyclopedic style we adhere to elsewhere seems more important to me.
That said, if other users editing articles on chemical element should prefer your proposed style, I will not object at all. Perhaps it's something to propose at WT:CHEMISTRY. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 18:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Pardon me for intrusion into the discussion, @ImprovedWikiImprovment, could you please explain to a non-native speaker with the very basic skills (i.e. me) a couple of things:
  1. Why did you use a (saying "I am a native speaker of English...") instead of the? After all, you wrote about a unique person (yourself), or should I say "the unique person"?
  2. You wrote that some articles have the and other have a. Why did you choose to alter "a to the", but not "the to a"?
Tosha Langue (talk) 02:33, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
@Tosha Langue: No problem. So I'm saying that Oxygen is the only element with the symbol O and atomic number 8 (Oxygen is not one of many elements with this number "a element with the symbol", it is "the element with the symbol…". An example in a different article is Sun "the Sun is the star at the centre of the Solar System" (because the Sun is the only star in the Solar System); if "a" was used, it wouldn't be clear that there are not other stars. --IWI (talk) 08:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Therefore, the both statements (a and the) have their own semantics.
a-statement expresses that X is a chemical element (among other chemical elements), and it uses to be designated with the symbol X and the number Y.
the-statement expresses that X is the only chemical element with given parameters (symbol X and number Y).
Right? If so, then the later statement treats the notion of chemical element like a logical unit (which the chemical element is not). The first one treats it like an abstract entity (which the chemical element is). Tosha Langue (talk) 17:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Are chemical elements not logical units, specifically definable with mathematics in science (atomic number)? --IWI (talk) 17:24, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes, atoms are logical units, chemical elements are a mere historically defined reflection of the arrangement of matter. Tosha Langue (talk) 17:48, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

@Apaugasma: Yes I may bring it up there at a later point. Best regards, --IWI (talk) 18:50, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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TheWikiWizard - February 2023

Hey, ImprovedWikiImprovment! Here is the February 2023 issue for the TheWikiWizard!

Humor

  • Have you finished raking up those leaves from fall?
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2023

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  • The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2023

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023

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TheWikiWizard - May 2023

Hey, ImprovedWikiImprovment! Here is the May 2023 edition for the TheWikiWizard!

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  • Now is the time to start writing those Christmas cards and do the Christmas shopping! Come December, you can sit back and edit Wikipedia! ;)
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  • A conversation with trustees event took place on the 18th of May. You can read more details on the event here!
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

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  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
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  • The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

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  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

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The Signpost: 15 August 2023

Addition of Shire county to UK place infoboxes

Hi @ImprovedWikiImprovment. Couple of the changes you've recently made to West Midland settlements popped up on my watchlist. Get what you've added, however the Shire county definition isn't consistent with the Cambridge Dictionary definition here: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/shire-county nor does it accord with material in Wikipedia Metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties of England (although there's a citation needed tag for that). Before going ahead with more such changes, it might be a good idea to seek other editors' opinion on whether these additions are 'justified'. I'm gonna raise this on the Talk page of WP:UKGEO. Rupples (talk) 14:38, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

@Rupples: I will stop now that I’ve seen this, but I am entitled to be bold and not require consensus until challenged, which seems to be the current situation. --IWI (talk) 17:25, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Quite right. Personally, finding the additions informative. Carry on if there's no objection. Cheers. Rupples (talk) 17:33, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
@Rupples: I’ll keep watch to see if anyone objects. Thanks, --IWI (talk) 17:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

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  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

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  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

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TheWikiWizard - September 2023

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Wiki(p/m)edia News

  • On the EN Wikipedia, there were 4 successful RFAs between the period of July and September! Congrats to the candidates! Also on Simple English Wikipedia, they had 1 successful RFA in August!
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  • It's almost fall again! (or is it already?) Don't fall on fallen leaves!
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

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  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

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  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

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  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
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  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

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  • Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
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