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Notability

Don't worry being flagged for notability doesn't mean it is going to disappear anytime soon - obviously if I thought it should be deleted I'd have tagged it accordingly. What it means is that as it stands if someone did put it up for deletion it might be in trouble so the notability issues need to be addressed asap. Not sure if it helps but I recently gave a few pointers here - in that case they rapidly improved things and I removed the tags. Those entries still need work (and might still fail an AfD) but they are safer and that is the main thing. You don't want to be rushing to address the issues in the middle of a deletion discussion as it may already. Hope that helps. I'll be keeping an eye out for sources but it might take some work - a lot of these entries are borderline and what I'm trying to do is bring them up to standard so they are more likely to stay here. If you feel you might be hitting a brick wall drop a note into the Comics Project and see if someone else might be able to dig up something. If you have any questions then fire away ;) (Emperor 21:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC))

Sorry to hear you have met with some rudeness, I'm afraid there are people like that out there and sometimes we all forget not to bite the newbie (and sometimes we've just had a crappy day ;) ). The thing is not to take it personally and, if need be, get second opinion (most entries have a project or two attached to them and they are all open to helping resolve problems or explaining what the problem is (as it is often that there is a good reason for things but people get used to using shorthand).

So the entries... I wouldn't stub them, that'd be only if there was something wrong with the content. The best thing is to expand them, if the information is solid then it should be possible to source the information. I wouldn't worry about the tags as I have put a lot up on more mainstream comics - often they are worse as people see to assume because we all know about them that they don't have to prove anything (which isn't how things work). How to address this? Well there are two levels (as I explained in that link in my previous post): WP:V and WP:N. The former is about it existing and the latter is why it is worth including here (we often get fictional comics added or ones that someone has created at home for their friends so there has to be a bar set for inclusion). The first thing to address is verifiability, so links to reviews, overviews, etc. will help. I often find that in doing this you actually start finding material that starts to satisfy notability guidelines. I'm not sure I know enough about the field to give too detailed pointers (beyond see what a Google search turns up) but indie/alternative comics do have quite a few books and the like about them (they tend to punch well above their weight/circulation). To that end I have found Amazon.com's search in book feature very useful for research as you can pick up references to the creator in any books and usually get to fish the relevant page out to view (so you can often snag a quote or see how useful it is) and Google Scholar search is equally as useful - I've just dragged up a tonne of stuff through it (including on some pretty obscure comics matters). So give that angle a whirl and feel free to ask in the Comics Project as someone might have a lead.

Pity about the creator, I have found a lot of them very helpful, but I can understand his reasoning I suppose.

Anyway hope that helps. It should be possible to bolt the notability aspects of these entries down, it will just take a bit more digging than a more mainstream title. (Emperor 16:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC))

I'm glad it helped. I've got them on my watch list so when they start to look solid (and the Comics Journal angle sounds like a good one) I'll get rid of the tags - they will need some work but a few solid sources should take them out of the zone where they are in danger of deletion and that then gives everyone time to chip in (after all no one expects any one person to produce a solid finished article in the first few edits - the important thing is to make sure enough is done to make sure it is safe). Good luck. (Emperor 13:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC))

Scott Cunningham

Isis, I took a shot at the draft you had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isisitrix/Scott_Cunningham_(artist) and just did just the basics I could fill out: the comics creator frame, the opening topic paragraph for the article (still my greatest strength har, har) but it looks like the draft you had in there was just a cut and paste from an email i.e. "this is a picture of me doing such and such..." and it's pretty much just a resume. Can you look up: 1) Who at WW3 Illustrated sought him out? 2) Who hired him at DC, Dc Vertigo, Bongo, Cartoon Network (like specific editors, producers etc.) There's a wild mix of works in there, so how does the kid-friendly material lead to the adult stuff or vice versa, even though this is an encyclopedia, it still needs a narrative of sorts, right now it just looks like the guy worked a lot. I think you said you or Maria were actually in touch with him? Ask him these directly see if you can get him to talk, that quote we have is nice but I may cut it down as other stuff comes in. Ask him about awards too.(Sintauro (talk) 18:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC))

Sorry I've been so flighty on these, I'm great at starting not concluding these projects. Hopefully Maria will be more of a presence. I like what's there and how you edited-reedited that copy, I'll be looking for corroboration like awards since those can be good-inarguable cites and refs but also establish notability for anyone not familiar with his work in comic books and animation.(Isisitrix 19:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC))

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