User talk:Jaakobou/Battle of Jenin

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saeb_Erekat&direction=prev&oldid=74513816 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaakobou (talk • contribs) 10:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

temp comment/reply

it's a very nice attempt, but i believe it to be a mistake for the following reasons:

Early 29.3.2002, Ariel Sharon starts the public statement regarding the cabinet's meeting and descision with a usual preface condolences to both the victims and families of the casus belli (i.e. Netanya bombing - March 27) and also happens to mentions two extra events with few casualties (2-4), one of which has not yet resolved. it is customary to start public statements by giving out a word of solace to victims and then proceed with the actual body of the statement. (repeated condolences introduction style here (31.3.2002), 2 days later after another attack that killed 15 more people)
these two new events were in progress after the emergency 28.3, 23:00pm meeting was announced,^{press release} - first one among the two started at the end of the holiday^[1] in elon moreh (i.e. only 2-3 hours before 23:00) and the other was going on even later than that.
in the statement body, there are clearly two points:
1. that israel has been repeatedly trying to strive for peace.
2. the response has repeatedly been terror activity.
3. these two points are also mentioned (and slightly expanded) in the 31.3 statement (mentioned also above) where sharon retorts the following:
  "we cooperated with the american embassador anthony zinni - and we received in terror response. we worked together with US vice-president dick chany - and we received in terror response. i've decided, in order to promote the possibility for a truce, to relinquish my claim for the seven days of quite and we received in terror response. we took the IDF out of the cities - and we received in terror response. everything we received in response to our efforts was terror, terror and more terror."..."the israeli government have decided in it's meeting last thursday to go out on a wide campaign to uproot the infrastructures of terror within the territories of the palestinian authority."
Hebrew wikipedia lists down an article by the title black march, which lists down 18(!) terror attacks before the netanya bombing (not including).
as a result, this operation was already in serious consideration in the event that the violence won't stop (Washington Post report repeated on YNET about Israel planing wide scale operation if all peace attempts fail)

inferring by this single ref to have us believe that 3 events, mentioned as a preface or foreword to the defense cabinet meeting's media statement, caused the operation is mistreatment to the topic and represents a coarse mis-connection between an introduction condolences notice and between the operation defensive shield, prompted by the events of "Black March" which culminated with the netanya bombing - using three would be a serious stretch (WP:SYN).

extras:

elon moreh ref

Synthesis vs. Weasel - About the number three

Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

the following is in continuation to this thread.

-- leave your comments on this subsection. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 19:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

warred out version

the following is a previous version of the article:

A series of suicide attacks by Palestinian militants on Israeli civilians, which culminated in the March 27, 2002 Passover massacre in which 30 Israelis were killed,^[1] followed by six other suicide bombings in a span of two weeks,^[2] prompted the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) to conduct what it considered a large-scale counter-terrorist offensive.^[3]

extra notes and sources

1) Passover suicide bombing at Park Hotel in Netanya - 27-Mar-2002:

UN Secretary-General Annan (Mar 28): The Secretary-General condemned suicide bombings against Israeli civilians as "morally repugnant": "Last night's heartless and indiscriminate attack in Netanya was an especially appalling example of this phenomenon. This is terrorism, and it greatly damages the Palestinian cause."

2) [http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/04/12/mideast/index.html Israel enters West Bank villages]:

Friday's terror attack was the sixth suicide bombing targeting Israeli civilians since a Passover bombing in the Israeli coastal town of Netanya that killed 28 people. The following day, a militant wing of Hamas claimed responsibility for a shooting in a Jewish settlement near Nablus that killed four Israeli settlers. In response, Sharon's ordered Israeli troops into Palestinian-controlled cities across the West Bank, and Israeli troops have kept Arafat confined to an office building in his Ramallah compound.

3) Letter from Israel Ambassador Lancry to the United Nations Secretary-General - 14-Feb-2001:

The Hamas Izzadin al Kassam terrorist faction has reportedly claimed responsibility for the attack. It should be recalled that convicted terrorists of the same faction have recently been released from Palestinian Authority jails, in violation of signed Israeli-Palestinian agreements and despite repeated Israeli warnings that terrorist attacks would imminently result. The Palestinian Authority cynically justified the attack, placing the responsibility for it on Israel. The crime which was committed today is merely the latest in a series of Palestinian terrorist attacks against Israel and Israeli citizens. I have detailed these incidents, the number of which has sharply increased in recent weeks, in a number of letters addressed to you, most recently in my letter dated 13 February 2001 (A/55/781-S/2001/132) and in my letters dated 2 February 2001 (A/55/762-S/2001/103), 25 January 2001 (A/55/748-S/2001/81), 23 January 2001 (A/55/742-S/2001/71), 28 December 2000 (A/55/719-S/2000/1252), 22 November 2000 (A/55/641-S/2000/1114), 20 November 2000 (A/55/634-S/2000/1108) and 2 November 2000 (A/55/540-S/2000/1065). Israel now finds itself in a daily reality of ongoing Palestinian violence and terrorism directed against its citizens and security forces.

4) Suicide bombing at Cafe Moment in Jerusalem - 9-Mar-2002

5) Suicide bombing in the Beit Yisrael neighborhood in Jerusalem - 2-Mar-2002

6) Embassy Briefing March 29, 2002:

The actions taken by Israel today are a result of its loss of faith in Arafat. The Palestinian Authority and its leader bear full responsibility for the murderous terrorism, which, due to the PA's approval and guidance, continues to claim the lives of innocent Israeli victims.
The suicide bomber who perpetrated the Passover Massacre was on the list of wanted terrorists, a person Israel repeatedly requested that the PA arrest. He was previously released from a Palestinian jail, despite Israel's warnings. His release by the PA is tantamount to his being sent on his horrific suicide mission by the PA itself.
Numerous fatal terrorist attacks have been carried out by members of the mainstream PLO Fatah faction and its subsidiary organs. All of these individuals and groups are directly subordinate to Yasser Arafat. Arafat has done nothing to prevent his subordinates from carrying out terrorist attacks against Israel. The leader of organizations that carry out terrorist attacks against Israel can only be described as Israel's enemy.

7) [http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/03/28/mideast/index.html Israel declares Arafat 'enemy']:

"We're quite fed up with those declarations that Arafat makes every time he feels the pressure is mounting on him," said Gissin. "He has to take real action. Declarations won't do. They won't get him off the hook." ... A source at the Israeli Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem said Thursday that Israel had not responded to Wednesday's terror attack because the government continued to support U.S. Mideast envoy Anthony Zinni's efforts to reach a cease-fire. He is still in the region, and U.S. officials said Zinni will remain there to try to negotiate a cease-fire. "Israel will do the most it can," said the source, adding that Israel has followed a policy of retaliatory restraint for the last 10 days. During that period, the source said, Israeli authorities have intercepted 11 would-be suicide bombers.

8) Embassy of Israel, Washington DC - statment made April 1:

Israel has experienced an unprecedented wave of terrorism during the month of March 2002, claiming the lives of 120 Israelis. Israel is now fighting for its survival. No democratic nation can acquiesce in the face of the ongoing massacre of its own citizens. Every nation has the right and responsibility to defend its people.

comments on syn vs. weasel

considering theses sources, i request User:146.115.58.152 to please revert back to the more accurate version that doesn't use "A series of three suicide bombing attacks by Palestinian militants on Israeli civilians...".^[2] Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 19:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

temp

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%91%D7%A6%D7%A2_%D7%97%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%AA_%D7%9E%D7%92%D7%9F

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:B_qtJRTbvYkJ:www.rg-law.ac.il/humanrights/24_5.doc+%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9D+2002+%D7%95%D7%95%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%94+%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%A5&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5

http://www.ynet.co.il/home/0,7340,L-4269-141-344-200200-6,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaakobou (talk • contribs) 14:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

versions to go through

new syn related links

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3303440,00.html

מספר ההרוגים הגדול ביותר בחודש אחד שגבה טרור המתאבדים היה ב"מרץ השחור של שנת 2002": 130 הרוגים ב-13 אירועים, שבראשם הפיגוע במלון פארק בנתניה בליל הסדר.

http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%A5_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%95%D7%A8

http://dover.idf.il/IDF/About/history/2000s/2002/032901.htm

IDF notes.

http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMO/Archive/Speeches/2002/03/Speeches6166.htm sharon 29.3 http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMO/Archive/Speeches/2002/03/Speeches6206.htm sharon 31.3

Add topic

[1] Passover Massacre: Passover suicide bombing at Park Hotel in Netanya March 27, 2002

[2] Israel enters West Bank villages

[3] Statements by Israeli PM Sharon and DM Ben-Eliezer 29 Mar 2002

[1]

[2]

[3]