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Tech News: 2013-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There was a problem caused by too many requests to the database on November 14. [1]

Future

• MediaWiki 1.23wmf4 was added to test wikis on November 14. It will arrive to non-Wikipedia wikis on November 19 and all Wikipedia wikis on November 21 (calendar).
• The new Search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added to *.wikimedia.org, Wikimania and Wikisource wikis on November 19, and Wiktionary wikis on November 21 (except where it's already available). Once it is added, you can test it by adding &srbackend=CirrusSearch to the address of the search results page. It will become the main search engine on Wikivoyage wikis on November 21. [2]
• The MassMessage tool will be added to all wikis on November 19 instead of November 14. It will make it simpler to send messages across wikis. [3]

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08:48, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Resolution of NPOV discussion

Hi Jackmcbarn, you reverted an NPOV tag on a page that I created Talk:PH Media Group and I was wondering if you might help by providing some advice about how the page could be changed to remove the NPOV tag. I'm struggling to identify where I might be able to amend it as I was very careful to merely state facts and back them up with citations when I created the page. Help would be really appreciated. Thanks. Jenniferlever (talk) 17:13, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I've replied on the article's talk page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for replying but it didn't really help me in trying to amend the article. I'm looking for a bit of guidance if you can please help me.Jenniferlever (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Pratham and the NJRS secondary school

Hello Jack, you can call me 74. Happened to notice your conversation with Bbb23 about Pratham's article. User_talk:Bbb23#New_R._S._J._Public_School_Senior_Secondary They are a beginner, and we are trying to extract cites from them, but all the template-noise on their talkpage has made them temporarily immune to the clue-transference procedure. Can you hold off on AfD temporarily please, while we try to get Notability ascertained? Thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 19:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't going to AfD the article. The problem with it is that having a list of subjects offered at the school, etc. isn't important to the article and should be removed from it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

There are a couple editors that have been managing the article-content (WikiDan61 and Eastmain). I will ping them via the article talkpage about this; my involvement with high-school-related-articles is a total of two so far.  :-)   Thanks for improving wikipedia. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 06:34, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead and threaten me more.

All that collection of jerks do is threaten me. I tried to come and suggest improvements and I get them calling me names, claiming I misrepresent sources (I DO NOT) and threatening me if I "misrepresent sources" again meaning if I speak and I'm not agreeing with them. This whole place is fucking corrupt.

FINE. I REWROTE IT. HAPPY NOW? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.232.6 (talk) 00:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I am very sorry. Wikipidia is very interesting and I get carried away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CpESDFed (talk • contribs) 01:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

are you a bot or a real person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CpESDFed (talk • contribs) 01:59, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm a real person. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

so i am a jerk? bbbiiiggg mmmaaannn... — Preceding unsigned comment added by CpESDFed (talk • contribs) 02:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

do i still have to be a jerk? Im sorry for making bad edits, i was testing what was authority i had. I did not see the sandbox mode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CpESDFed (talk • contribs) 02:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

You can still make constructive edits. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:06, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

i dont want to be a jerk, and im not threatening you.

i havent even called you a name!

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Reporting users before I do makes me unhappy Retartist (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

It IS!!!

You see. My Father Is Debating Whether I should get the IPhone5C! So I am Trying to convince him. And This JUST might Work Please Don't do that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cappellucci9 (talk • contribs) 02:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Swami Nithyananda

Hi, Can you please provide the reason why you found my edits as not constructive. Nithyananda's reputation in my country is well known as controversial godmen ( I provided references). The wikipedia statement of him being a "mystic" is misleading and not true as it doesn't show any references?

Lokayata91 (talk) 04:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I think saying that in the lead is a little bit POV. I'll let it stand for now, but it's likely to be reverted again by another editor. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. There are similar articles like Asaram Bapu which state that they are controversial personalities..So i thought the edit was within wikipedia's rules. Cheers.Lokayata91 (talk) 04:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

It might be; it's a borderline case. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:17, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I am quoting from what I wrote on Lokayata91 's talk page. I have to agree with Jackmcbarn's observations. Your edits appear purely as an attempt at character assassination. Understand that all the controversies against Swami Nithyananda are only allegations. And that he is the Guru of more than 10 million people worldwide. And not only that, he is the head of the oldest apex body of Hinduism. So calling him self styled is sort of like calling the pope a self styled leader. Please don't keep reverting the changes people are making to the article without reason. WP:AVOIDEDITWAR Acnaren (talk) 17:48, 23 November 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acnaren (talk • contribs)

If the "self-styled" godman was out of hand , It would have been reverted by ADMINS. The swami nithyananda page is being monitored by admins like Sean.Hoyland and Doug.Weller. Just because you find nithyananda as a god does not mean the world media and the rest of the world sees him like that as well. Again and again you are engaging in revert wars, If you feel that he is not a controversial god man, Then discuss on talk page instead of blindly blanking sourced information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lokayata91 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: template.

Sorry I misread your request. For some reason I thought you said full protection. It should be done as you requested now. Sorry about that. Thingg^⊕⊗ 17:18, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the assistance at User talk:Cyberpower678; I appreciate it.

Oh, and here:

		The WikiJaguar Award for Excellence
		For your recent assistance responding to the request I left on someone else's talk page, I award you the WikiJaguar Award for Excellence in talk page stalking efforts. ~zziccardi (talk) 00:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

So who actually WRITES wikipedia pages?

Why not shed some light with your enforcement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hottweelz (talk • contribs) 02:01, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Just random people who come across the topic and see it doesn't have one. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, so its safe to assume you don't threaten "anyone routinely," correct? You're more of a stern enforcer? Only asking, for media reasons. -James Tylee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hottweelz (talk • contribs) 02:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Nobody gets special treatment on Wikipedia. If you feel you've been cheated, you're free to rewrite a page that meets the notability guidelines, if such a page is possible, and you'll be welcomed with open arms. But reposting a page almost identical to what was deleted by different people three months ago isn't going to get you anywhere. —Soap— 02:52, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Cleanup of User:Himanshu gupta4

Can an admin delete Network Security & Cryptography, undelete the first 3 revisions, move those revisions to User talk:Himanshu gupta4 (deleting what's there now), then undelete the rest of the revisions? Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:01, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

 Doing... --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 04:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done in the modified form we discussed. This is a copyright violation. The user talk page has been moved out. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 04:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features

• The Beta Features announced before are now available on all Wikimedia wikis. You can test new features easily by changing your Beta preferences. VisualEditor is one of those features on sites where it works and isn't automatically enabled. There is also a new media viewer and changes in the article text style. [4]
• Tools developers can now create tools that use the OAuth protocol to connect to accounts on Wikimedia sites. As a user, you can use those tools to make edits and other changes with your account without giving the tool your password. [5]

Problems

• Wikis that are currently testing CirrusSearch had problems with search results on November 18 from 16:00 to 20:00 UTC.

Future

• There will be no major code changes on the week of November 25 because many developers will be on holiday for Thanksgiving.
• The editing interface of Page: pages on Wikisource (working with the Proofread Page extension) will soon also work without JavaScript. [6]

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06:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

23.127.160.21

Jackmcbarn,

The occupation of a person carrying out assassinations of 2 heads of states must be a terrorist if you are talking about maintaining a neutral point of view. 32 countries agree with me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam#cite_ref-146 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.127.160.21 (talk) 09:14, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

That's a very controversial issue. See WP:TERRORIST. Also, please discuss on the talk page if you still believe it belongs there. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

PH Media Group

Hi Jackmcbarn, I have left you a message on the talk page here Talk:PH Media Group and was wondering if you might kindly take a look to see if the page warrants removal of the NPOV tag. I have discussed the matter with another user and they have helped me to make several changes to improve the tone of the article. The other user believes it now displays a neutral point of view but said I may be best running it past you also to gain consensus. Your opinion would be much appreciated. Jenniferlever (talk) 10:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Draft Articles Anushka Sen and Dev Joshi

Now, I have 4 3rd party sources references on Dev Joshi Draft Article, and also many information of Dev Joshi. I also have many information on Anushka Sen Draft Article, please... Accept this two draft articles as articles.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 14:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

If you're ready for the articles to be re-reviewed, click the Resubmit button on the old decline box, then click Save page. This will add it to the reviewing queue. It's important that you leave the old decline box on the page, though. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

(thanks for restoring the notice DGG ( talk ) 19:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC) )

Sab Ke Anokhe Awards

I don't remember that "I Remove any content from Talk:Sab Ke Anokhe Awards". See on the history of the page I don't remove anything.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 15:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC).

Yes you did, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3aSab_Ke_Anokhe_Awards?diff=581837466 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sab_Ke_Anokhe_Awards&diff=581839976&oldid=581837505 Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I think I do that accidentally, but I think I add this again, Thanks for letting me know.--Krishnadahal12 (talk) 17:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I'M SORRY!!!!

I'm sorry jackmcbarn for erasing the template and don't erase all my articles for no reason. User:Alexandharrison (talk)

I need help with Dev Joshi Draft Article.

I need help, I need editor to help me manage my article. Because I don't really know how to manage wiki's page. Please Help...--Krishnadahal12 23:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC).

You can get live help via IRC here or ask at the Teahouse for a slower, but more thorough, response. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I already use VIA chat and Teahouse, but I don't know how to use Teahouse.--Krishnadahal12 23:52, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Sonik Foundry/sandbox

I don't see the harm in this user-space sandbox. Bearian (talk) 00:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

The user was spamublock'd, and IIRC, it was for posting that same thing in multiple places. That one just got missed when most of it got cleaned up. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

OK, I was unaware of the history. Bearian (talk) 16:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Warslow FC

We do not have a club website but this wiki page is where all the info is found so i cant really put a link to the squad so how can I get it published without removing the squad list?

Cheers Rob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob holmes123 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

You need independent sources that talk about the club. If those don't exist, the club isn't allowed to have a Wikipedia article. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) So create your own website - they cost peanuts. Wikipedia is not a free host. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Chloé Isaac

Hi, I have removed PROD tag from this article after adding source as per notability guidelines. I'll work on this article later. Please look into this, if you still want this article to be deleted then take it to Afd. Regards. Hitro talk 11:02, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Lack of references was my only concern, so I'm no longer interested in seeing it deleted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Algebra

Hello, can you explain why you enabled AFT here? Do you plan to review feedback on it as encouraged by the guidelines, or do you expect someone else to do so for you? I reviewed the 150 most obvious unreviewed feedback items and they included one-year old egregious vandalism... I'm happy to help with AFT but I'm not your servant, please do your own laundry. --Nemo 10:24, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page, since there's already a discussion taking place regarding this there. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:28, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Protection Template

Thank you for the information, and for your concern. Honestly, I just don't want people to care. It's my user page, and I don't like bots going over work on a personal page. In other words, it's the principle that's the point: If I wanted that removed, I would have done it myself. No one cares. Sorry, I'm not trying to be harsh. I just really get tired of bots going around changing things. And my user page isn't some huge popular page. I'm not a mega editor with 50 bots and 10 new talk page items a day. Have a nice day.

rJaytalk 01:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Even though your user page isn't popular, when you incorrectly use a protection template, your user page gets added to a highly monitored category that we try to keep empty at all times. Unless you have a really good reason for an incorrect protection template, it should be removed so the category can be cleaned up. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Know Your Roots

A tag has been placed on Wikipedia:Know Your Roots, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo, or other unlikely search term.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Jimmybenge (talk) 03:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm the one that tagged that page for deletion. Why are you leaving that message for me? Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:10, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Because honestly, I'm new to the whole wikipedia scene. I was using the name of that page as a link for a research project and I'm already getting flack that it's a broken link... What would you like me to do to fix it? Jimmybenge (talk) 03:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Using a Wikipedia user sandbox for research otherwise unrelated to Wikipedia is not allowed. Wikipedia is not a free Web host. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I would ask you to look over it and see how it is/is not research. We're simply posting information about something we created as an attachment to Maxima. Jimmybenge (talk) 03:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

If you're posting about something you created yourself, you should read WP:PSCOI. In any case, unless a topic is notable according to Wikipedia's notability guidelines, it may not have its own page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-49

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

This newsletter is now posted using MediaWiki message delivery.

New features

• The CommonsMetadata feature was added to all wikis. It creates metadata information about multimedia files (like their license) that can be read automatically by computer programs. It not only works for Commons, but for all wikis, and you can use it for files on your wiki by editing templates used to describe metadata. [7]
• JavaScript code used on Wikimedia sites is now saved locally on your computer to load faster. [8]

VisualEditor

• You can now paste formatted content copied from external sources (not just as plain text) into VisualEditor; this includes copy/pasting from other VisualEditor windows. [9]
• You can now open VisualEditor by adding ?veaction=edit to the page URL, regardless of your user preferences. [10]
• Many bugs have been fixed, and VisualEditor should also look faster, for example when you save a page. [11]

Problems

• Due to issues, the new search tool ("CirrusSearch") was recently removed from wikis where it was enabled, then added again. [12]

Future

• MediaWiki 1.23wmf6 was added to test wikis on December 5. It will arrive to non-Wikipedia wikis on December 10 and all Wikipedia wikis on December 12 (calendar).
• The old Etherpad tool (replaced by a new version) will be removed on December 30, 2013. You can still save old pads before that date using the old address: https://etherpad-old.wikimedia.org. [13]

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08:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Village

Can you please close the WP:NPA discussion on Village? The consensus against it is clear and it is also clear the proposer is finally declining from continuing it. I would do it, but it would only look like I'm edit-warring. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'd rather not further involve myself in that. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:09, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Templates

Regarding this, I didn't miss them; the result of the discussion for these was "merge", not "delete". They should not have been on the "Ready for deletion" list in the first place. --RL0919 (talk) 01:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-50

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features

• You can now see a legend on Special:RecentChanges and Special:Watchlist that explains the symbols used. [14]
• If your wiki is testing the new search tool ("CirrusSearch"), you can now test it by adding "New search" in your Beta features preferences. [15]

VisualEditor

• The toolbar is now simpler; all text styles (bold, italics, underline, subscript, etc.) are in the same menu, and the "More" menu is called "Insert". [16]
• You can now use a basic tool to add special characters to your text. You can add more characters (useful in your language) by editing the MediaWiki interface on translatewiki.net.
• The tool to add and edit mathematical text is now called "formula". [17]

Problems

• There was a problem with the "Create a book" tool (Collection); books could only be exported to PDF format. The change has been undone. [18]
• The log-in system for external tools ("OAuth") was broken on wikis that tested the new search tool. It was fixed last week. [19] [20]
• Because of a bug, this newsletter is delivered to users using the new MediaWiki message delivery, and to community pages using the old EdwardsBot. [21]

Future

• MediaWiki 1.23wmf7 was added to test wikis on December 12. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on December 17 and all Wikipedia wikis on December 19 (calendar).
• You will soon be able to select the language of SVG images that have translations using a drop-down menu on the image page. (see example) [22]
• GLAMToolset, a tool to help GLAM groups (like museums) upload many pictures to Commons, will be added to Commons on December 17. [23]
• A Draft namespace will be added to the English Wikipedia to make it easier to create new pages. You will be able to use VisualEditor for drafts if you have enabled it. [24] [25]

Other

• You can read the summary of the technical report for November 2013 to learn more about VisualEditor, Mobile and other features. [26]

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08:24, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Why are you being so aggressive?

I am just trying to make an article, why are you being so adamant about deleting it? And the subject had a book published by Fantagraphics, that leads to notability. --CIRCLE OUTER WORLD (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

If you think so, explain why on the talk page. You are not allowed to remove speedy deletion tags from your own articles, no matter how good of a reason you think you have. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Knockout (violent game)

Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Knockout (violent game). Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:09, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf8) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on December 19. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on December 31 and on all Wikipedia wikis on January 2, 2014 (calendar).
• You can now test the new search tool ("CirrusSearch") on all Wikisource, Wiktionary and Wikimedia chapter wikis hosted on Foundation servers. Enable "New search" in your Beta features preferences. [27]
• There was a bug where notifications were not sent when the signature of the user leaving the message linked to a translated namespace. The problem was fixed in the software and will soon be fixed on Wikimedia sites. [28] [29]
• You can now use the log-in system for external tools (OAuth) on all Wikimedia wikis that use the unified login. [30]
• If your wiki adds stars or other icons to interwiki links for featured articles in other languages, you may need to change the JavaScript code. [31]
• You can thank other users for their edits even if your browser does not have JavaScript. [32] [33]
• All edits made through Flow, the new discussion system for MediaWiki, are now visible in user's contributions. You can test it on the Flow talk page on MediaWiki.org. [34] [35]
• You can test a visual tool that shows edits made to an article over time. It only works for English Wikipedia pages for now and is slow on long articles. [36]
• You can test the first version of the new mobile Wikipedia app for Android and iOS. [37]
• Translatewiki.net, the site where you can translate the MediaWiki software, now has a new main page for users without an account. [38]

Future software changes

• There will be no technical changes this week (December 23 to December 29) due to end-of-year holidays.
• When someone deletes, restores, uploads, or moves a file on Commons, pages on all wikis that use that file will be refreshed. [39] [40]
• New users will soon have their user and talk pages added to their watchlist as soon as they create an account. [41] [42].
• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will not show the text of versions of a page that have been hidden. [43] [44]
• You will soon be able to see the raw HTML created by some wikitext by using the Special:ExpandTemplates tool. [45] [46]

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08:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

A Cool Award

File:Copa Intercontinental.svg	The You Helped me award
	Thank you for helping me! Alexandharrison (talk) 02:32, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Deprecated templates and speedy delete

Jack,

I know the discussion has only been going for a couple days, but not a single person is in favor. Sounds like a clear case of WP:SNOW to me. I am of the thought that no one should revert because someone might disagree, but only because they personally disagree, but if you do think deprecated templates should be deleted, you need to say so on the talk page. Ego White Tray (talk) 15:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

It's not really that I'm opposed to it, just that it feels like changing that during the discussion, even if it is heading for a snow close, is short-circuiting process. If the change were remade, I wouldn't revert again, though. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Eastern AA

 Done. GiantSnowman 18:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Conversation

Hi Jack, It made more sense to continue here, rather than to keep adding help alerts on my talk page.

Re Azomite, will you please be specific re what you mean by this? "It seems to be covering only the viewpoint that the minerals are good, which by the way it reads, doesn't seem to be something everyone agrees on. Per WP:NPOV, other viewpoints should be covered." Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:40, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

By "the" minerals, do you mean minerals in-general or the minerals as this page's topic. I read and re-read the paragraph and it relays several opinions on the positives of mineral nourishment in our soil systems. There is actually zero science that suggests otherwise. So curious what you mean by it not being something everyone agrees on? That idea is pretty universal. If you have a specific idea for an edit, please share it. Thank you. (Victoriasays (talk) 00:15, 30 December 2013 (UTC))

Wait, wait - I reread your notes and made an edit. When you are able, please let me know if this did the trick. Thanks in advance. (Victoriasays (talk) 00:21, 30 December 2013 (UTC))

As I reread the section, I don't see any purpose it serves at all by being in the article. I think your best bet would be to just remove it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

The paragraph in-question doesn't mention the page name at all. Kindly explain what about it sounds like an ad to you. An "ad" for what? (Victoriasays (talk) 23:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC))

This was resolved over IRC. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-01

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You can now see the text of DjVu and PDF files in search results on wikis testing the new search tool (CirrusSearch). [47] [48]
• With the new version of the Wikibase DataModel extension, you can install it outside Wikimedia wikis. [49]

VisualEditor news

• Images are now shown inside VisualEditor as HTML5 <figure /> elements. Comments are welcome. [50]
• You can now test a basic version of VisualEditor on mobile devices; see this article as an example.

Problems

• On December 23, Wikimedia Labs was broken for 4 hours due to an NFS problem. [51]

Future software changes

• CirrusSearch will be added as the second search method for Spanish (es), French (fr), Portuguese (pt) and Russian (ru) wikis on December 30. Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies and Wikinews users will also be able to enable it in their Beta Features options.
• AbuseFilter log entries will be visible in CheckUser tool reports. [52] [53]
• It will soon be possible to search for log entries done by users without an account. [54] [55]
• It will no longer be possible to globally hide users with more than 1,000 edits. [56] [57]

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08:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Llinase

Dear Jackmcbarn, I'm working on the issues you said were the reasons for the rejection of my submission; I'll submit another attempt in a week or so. I'm the designer & builder & one-time shipmaster of Llinase & for a decade or so, we operated it as a passenger carrying charter vessel. We sold it three weeks before the 9/11 terrorist attacks so I can assure you we are not making this entry attempt in any promotional or advertising capacity, although I have written a book about my adventures with the boat. The book is out of print, though I'd like to include a reference (a link?) to it if that is acceptable. My son tells me that I should put the boat on Wikipedia, he says that it is unique & it would be a darned shame if I don't do it before I snuff it. (I'm 78). I'm quite happy try to meet any requirements you see fit to impose. So to see what I'm on about, if you're able, I appreciate it if you could look at the very short film clips which can be accessed under Llinase & catamaran on Google. Regards, Llinase (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC) Les G Thompson, user name; Llinase.

First off, you should request a change of usernames at WP:CHU. There's more details about this on your talk page. Also, you should read WP:PSCOI. You shouldn't write about things you have a close connection with. If they're truly notable, someone else will write about them. I'm also concerned about the notability of it; see WP:GNG for our guidelines on that. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Other option: BLPPROD

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For living people, in the future you can use the BLPPROD rather than just PROD. With the BLPPROD sources other than IMDB need to be provided. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:09, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

It was sourced to the India Times when I PROD'd it, so I couldn't use BLPPROD. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

so it was, i missed that.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Blanking of my userspace and talk page

With all due respect, what on earth made you think that was appropriate? The content on there was harming no one and had nothing to do with you; it was not within an article and it disrupted Wikipedia in no way whatsoever. It is impossible to imagine that anyone would find it offensive. I see that you are not an admin. I suggest that if you have a problem, you take it to them instead of blanking my page. KingHooves (talk) 04:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Having 30kb worth of consecutive 0s that make pages stretch all the way out to the right has no value. My edits couldn't have been further from "vandalism" as you called them, and the fact that I'm not an admin doesn't give me any less right to do what I did. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but you knew you were going to get called out on that one. Just delivering the truth. KingHooves (talk) 04:11, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Your changes, by the way, have been fully reverted. Stay off my user and talk pages unless you plan to contribute to discussion there. KingHooves (talk) 04:13, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:16, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I want to work as a Volunteer in health section..

Hello! I hope u would be having great time. My name is Sadie. ( from Pakistan) I want to work as a volunteer in health sector, and I am looking for links , guideline , and a source which can guide me to use my potential to serve in this field... may be you can suggest me something. or can give me a link to go for it. 201.220.215.12 (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry; that's not something I can help with. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Please !! I would be grateful to you if you would answer my subject on following link, sadia.neelum@estudiantes.ssp.sld.cu because I get many difficulties while using wiki user talk pages even I made my account on Wikipedia with user name Dr.Kiyani but I cant sign in with this account further. .201.220.215.11 (talk) 20:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

There's really nothing I can do for you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf9) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 2. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on January 7 and on all Wikipedia wikis on January 9 (calendar).
• The old note-taking site (Etherpad) was removed on December 30, 2013. You can see most of the documents on the new site. [59]

Problems

• On January 2, Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata and all Wikivoyage projects were broken for 2 hours due to language cache update issues.
• On the same day, it was not possible to edit most wikis for about 30 minutes, due to a database replication problem.

Future software changes

• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added as the default search method for Italian Wikipedia, French Wikisource, Wikidata and all Wikivoyage sites, and as a second search method for the German Wikipedia and all Wikibooks sites on January 6. [60]
• Spanish, French, Portuguese and Russian Wikipedia users will also be able to enable CirrusSearch in their Beta Features options. [61]
• Plural form rules for some languages will be changed. Many translations of the user interface for Belarusian, Russian, Serbian, Ukrainian and other languages will need to be changed. [62] [63] [64]
• You will see a warning when you try to delete a page linked to from other pages. [65] [66]
• You will be able to hide redirect pages on the list of protected pages. [67] [68]
• You will be able to use keyboard shortcuts in the Translate tool, by pressing Alt+1 and similar key groups. [69] [70]
• E-mails sent by MediaWiki will include the name of the site in their From: line. You will be able to change this name on your wiki by editing the MediaWiki:Emailsender page. [71] [72]
• Images viewed in the Beta Features media viewer will load faster. [73] [74]

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08:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

William Henry Harrison & Henry Hurst

Don't know why you would be so rude as to edit my contribution to information on William Henry Harrison since my ancestor Henry Hurst was Harrison's aid de camp, a Major in the Grand Army of the Republic and fought in the War of 1812 (Battle of Tippecanoe - 1811) and rode along side Harrison at his inauguration. In my honest opinion the Hurst Family has contributed more to American history than any other colonial family, has been instrumental in every war America has been engaged in and done more to save American Lives than any other family in American history. Samuel Need Hurst published the Virginia Law Reports. Henry Hurst was a prominent lawyer, soldier and politician. Allan Forrest Hurst was a POW in the Civil War. Felden Hurst was a Lt. Col. US Calvary for the Federal Forces in Tennessee during the Civil War. I could go on but suffice it to say, the Jaws of Life was designed by the inventor of the Hurst Shifter; and my own mother was an anthropologist and historian and for my part I was involved in the Middle East Peace process in 2005 and 2006 to establish a UN Regional Human Rights/Terrorism Court in East Jerusalem and establish mass manufacturing of the electronic automobile in the Middle East, so next time you decide to edit my contributions consult me first!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.14.57 (talk) 01:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:OR and WP:OWN. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:20, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

My change was correct

I corrected the name of a broadcasting studio mentioned on that page. It was incorrectly spent 'Language' instead of 'Langage'. You may Google it if you wish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.247.53.97 (talk) 01:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I noticed that. I undid my own edit. Sorry for the inconvenience. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:41, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gremio de Artistas Latino Americanos Inc.

Hello, thank you for your kind attention to my submissions, in your comment I see a list should be removed. Which list is that? I noticed I have the directors and advisors listed in the body of the paragraph with their field of expertise, and beneath it in a column fashion as directors in Florida. is this the list that should be erased? If so, I believe they should be included in some fashion, since without their help, there wouldn't be a guild.

I realize the list could also be the executives of the company. Again, I am not sure, because these are the people who lend their time pro bono, lawyers, designers, coordinators and other personnel. I am just not sure. Any help or greater clarity forthcoming would be helpful in the extreme. And would allow me to edit accordingly without destroying the very essence of what the organization is and does. Thank you again. And thanks to all editors who may see this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.13.250 (talk) 01:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's the list that should be erased. If you want to put a few names somewhere, make an infobox and put them in there. Remember, Wikipedia is not a corporate directory. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:00, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Very quick reply. Appreciated. Gremio de Artistas Latino Americanos Inc. Thank you for the clarification and interest. Will be doing this soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.13.250 (talk) 02:05, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey This is VERY important. READ THIS NOW

The superintendent of the little rock school district is actually dr dexter Suggs. They hired him this year so I would like to thank you for having wrong information on the school district. Sincerely a concerned student in the LRSD aka sirwhitelightning. Ps He was in a gang so that's why people call him dr thuggs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirwhitelightning (talk • contribs) 02:18, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

The rest of your editing appears to be unconstructive. If you're telling the truth, cite a reliable source. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

go to LRSD.org to see that dr Suggs is actually the new superintendent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirwhitelightning (talk • contribs) 02:32, 9 January 2014‎ (UTC)

I've added the new superintedent's name. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you and don't mess with a student in the LRSD. You'll be proven wrong everytime

Sandbox edit of Template:Country data Costa Rica done

Moved to Template talk:Country data Costa Rica

 – Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:12, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Jackmcbarn. You have new messages at Template talk:Country data Costa Rica.
Message added 18:59, 9 January 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

(I pinged you there) APerson (talk!) 18:59, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Mamiwata Film

Hi! Can you delete Mamiwata Film page? I just tried to get used to Wikipedia before I write the actual article, but I realised now that I cannot go back since I save the page. Is it possible to save a Wikipedia page as draft? How can I do this? I deleted all the content since it was just some copy paste from the website. I didn't want to publish that, just to learn how to use all these things. I am really lost here :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mythicalmermaid (talk • contribs) 18:38, 10 January 2014‎ (UTC)

I've tagged Mamiwata film for deletion, so the next administrator that sees it will delete it. If you want to make a draft article, you should use the Article Wizard. Let me know if you have any more questions. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

You can read a recent blog post about how Tech News is put together, translated and sent to you across wikis each week.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf10) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 9. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 14, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 16 (calendar).
• Searching in the File: namespace on Wikimedia Commons may be slow due to a search engine issue. [75]

VisualEditor news

• VisualEditor will be added for all users on several Wikipedias on January 13. [76]
• You can now add and remove __NOTOC__, __FORCETOC__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ in the page metadata menu. [77] [78] [79]

Problems

• For a few hours on January 6, it was not possible to edit pages using the Translate tool on Wikimedia Commons and the Wikimania 2013 wiki, due to a settings error. [80] [81]
• For about 20 minutes on January 9, there were problems with CSS and JavaScript due to high server load.

Future software changes

• Wikidata will be added to all Wikisource wikis on January 14. [82]
• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added as the second search method for the English Wikipedia on January 13. On Wikibooks and the German Wikipedia, you will also be able to test it by adding it in your Beta Features options.
• You will soon be able to export page collections into other formats than PDF. [83]
• It will soon be possible to upload groups of photos from Flickr using UploadWizard. [84] [85]
• The Wikimedia Foundation has shared a multimedia vision for 2016. You are invited to comment. [86]

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09:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Pending Changes RfC

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2014 § Response from closer of 2013 RfC

 – Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Hmm.

Unless you have been to Inverkeithing High School, don't revert my edits. There's a reason I'm reverting edits by a teacher, trying to hide some less than attractive aspects of the school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.16.151 (talk) 02:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

You didn't "remove astroturfing." You added a bunch of negative WP:POV. Also, you don't WP:OWN anything. Anyone can edit your edits. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:12, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

You undid my changes

I removed all the content from the talk page intentionally. Please refrain from undoing the change again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nubbygarter (talk • contribs) 19:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

No. You're not allowed to blank other people's talk pages. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Jackmcbarn graffiti?

Jack, You deleted my correction to the Staunton chess design page. My article on the origin of the Staunton chess design is definitive and correct with factual backup and end notes97.82.195.43 (talk) 01:00, 17 January 2014 (UTC) showing every claim to be factual. Please look it up on my website before you accuse me of vandalism in future

If a statement in the article is wrong, don't just write "this is wrong" after it. Fix it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

C++/CX

Hi Jack,

[Quote] C++/CX (component extensions) is a language extension for C++ compilers from Microsoft that [...cut...] brings a set of syntax and library abstractions that interface with the COM-based WinRT programming model in a way that is natural to native C++ programmers. [/Quote]

I program C++ for 25+ years. I don't think "CX" is natural for native C++ programmers. ATL or WRT is the natural way to interact with COM for C++ programmer. CX is very confusing language extension (considering already enormous C++11 complexity) to interact with COM.

I'm not alone, see here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/boost-devel-archive/TJU0MumVo_E or here, comments from dissatisfied C++ programmers: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2011/10/20/10228473.aspx

I believe C++/CX is used for the same old "MS Windows domination through pollution" goal... reminds me Java and J++ story, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B

If you think your C++/CX opinion is more valuable - it's OK. (very wide grin) Sorry for the trouble.

Regards, Serge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.47.171 (talk) 05:08, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Your edit sounded like original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. If you cite a reliable source, you can make your changes again. Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Procedural close at Village pump

What is the right venue? Thanks. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

See WP:RM/CM. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Declined Sean Rush Article

Hello,

The article about Sean Rush an interior designer and fine artist was declined on January 16 because it said more references are needed. Does that mean we need to submit magazine articles that Sean Rush was in to be able to have his bio and info on Wikipedia? We did put the magazines under references do you need to see the actual article?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.230.165 (talk) 18:04, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't remember the exact name of that page. Can you post a link to it? Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:07, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

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