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Super Bowl LIII

I took the liberty of re-adding the IP's last rant, and forgot to change the edit summary to something better than "undid revision by Jack" etc. Look at the IP's history, and see that he's obsessing over this, for reasons known only to himself. Thus I reported him to AIV. If they won't do anything about it, and if he continues with it, I'll schlep him to ANI. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:35, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Check. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:44, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Adele aus der Ohe

Hi Jack, I saw you moved that page to Adele Aus der Ohe, once it had already been moved from Adele aus der ohe by a BOT. I took it up with Gerda and she agrees that it should read "aus der Ohe". Like this I would like your input here before I ask an admin to move it. Thanks, Krenakarore ^TK 21:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Once again, thank you ! Krenakarore ^TK 08:54, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

BNA access

Hi. You requested access to a British Newspaper Archive account via The Wikipedia Library a long time ago. I took over responsibilities as the account coordinator and I approved you for an account about a month ago. I still need you to follow the steps indicated on the e-mail I sent you, including submitting your information on the Google doc that e-mail indicates. If I don't have that information by 15 December, I'm going to archive your application with no further action.

If there's been any confusion or crossed-wires about this process, I apologize. I understand your request waited for some time before I e-mailed you. I'm eager to catch-up with the backlog of requests and other editors are waiting for accounts. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:14, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, Chris. I overlooked it in the maelstrom my life sometimes becomes.

All done now. I won't be using it for at least a month as I'm heading overseas on Friday, but it's nice to know it'll be there waiting for me upon my safe return. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:33, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Murder of Kylie Maybury

Murder of Kylie Maybury

Can you help me in expanding this article. I consider you a good friend on here and i would like your help. Paul Austin (talk) 09:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm on a break at the mo. See you in 2015. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 03:38, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!

Hello JackofOz, May you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New year 2015. Happy editing, CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:48, 19 December 2014 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

I know you're away on holiday. Hope you are enjoying it. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:48, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Mr C. B. Weather and the same to you and yours. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 03:41, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

List of closed pairs of English rhyming words

I have started the article "List of closed pairs of English rhyming words", based largely on the discussion archived at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2009 February 13#Words with exactly one rhyme.
—Wavelength (talk) 21:46, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to all

I've just dropped in for a minute to wish all my page watchers, lurkers, stalkers, eavesdroppers, Ref Desk Regulars, other wikifriends, and everybody else on Earth peace and best wishes for the festive season and 2015. To anyone I may have hurt along the way this year, I ask your forgiveness. From the Island of Serendipity I wish you all "Suba Naththalak Wewa". -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 03:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

String quartets ...

... I'm a sucker for them, I admit ... but wait, do I mean the ensembles or the genre of composition? Our article string quartet seems to be on both! Oddly, I'd never noticed this (maybe never even read the article, perversely indeed). I saw two items on the article's talk page addressing this, and reference to discussions at Talk:Musical form and Category_talk:Musical_forms, but but but ... Welcome back, dear friend, and what's your opinion on having one article on two things? Or is it actually one thing? ---Sluzzelin talk 01:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Sluzzelinsky. Thanks for the kind welcome.

I've replied at the bottom thread of the talk page, so won't repeat it here. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:38, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

January 2015

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Waltzes

This edit doesn't seem correct to me. Could you explain? MoreTomorrow (talk) 09:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Well, the Waltz in E minor, Op. posth., is usually called Waltz No. 14, as per here. You'll find many recordings and publications of "the 14 Waltzes" of Chopin. Why do you think the numbered series stopped at 13? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 11:26, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:Adelaide Festival Theatre world premieres

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Category:Sydney Opera House world premieres

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Category:Teatro Regio (Turin) world premieres

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For you, good sir

I had to. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 7 Shevat 5775 21:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, thank you, Sir Flinders. I shall treasure it. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:43, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Australian poems and Banjo Paterson category

I am not so sure that the two categories are necessarily redundant. "Australian poems" and "Poems by Australian poets" are not the same thing. Paintings allow for Category:John Brack AND Category:Australian paintings. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:48, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I agree that an "Australian poem" could refer to a poem on an Australian subject but written by a Peruvian. However, any poem by an Australian poet - on any subject - is properly called an "Australian poem". Hence, any and all poems by Paterson, Lawson, Murray et al are inherently "Australian poems", and hence we do not need to put them into both categories since one is a sub-set of the other. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:56, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Boris Stürmer

Hello Jack, could you take a look at Boris Stürmer? Not very many people do. Since a year I am working on it. The man, the story and the details are interesting. Thanks. (I hope to finish it pretty soon.) Taksen (talk) 05:09, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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Te Deum in C

I tried to clean up (my memories etc.) and found that the piece is mentioned as an example in the MOS which stopped me. It's not one of many Te Deum in C major, - why move? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gerda. I explained it in my edit summary as best I could: title may be unique in WP at present, but it's far from unique in the world of Te Deums. In other words, it's only a matter of time before another "Te Deum in C" page gets written, and then we'd need to disambiguate, since the Britten one isn't exactly what people think of when such a title is mentioned.

But if it offends MOS, then maybe I've overstepped the mark. Can you show me where it's used as an example? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:17, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

I guess I wasn't clear: I think those other pages would be called "in C major" (not: "in C") which would leave Britten's unique. My mistake: it wasn't MOS but Wikipedia:Naming conventions (music) where it is given as an example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Gerda. I wasn't aware of it, and I'm not at all sure I agree with it. I don't know whether this applies in the teutonosphere, but in English we often abbreviate major keys by dropping the word "major". That is, something that is said to be "in C" can safely be assumed to be in C major, not C minor. Given that, I can well imagine works that are formally titled "Te Deum in C major" but which are often called just "Te Deum in C". Imo, this needs further disambiguation. I'll be taking the issue up at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (music).

In the meantime, maybe we can just hold off doing anything further with the Britten article until the matter is resolved? Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

I didn't do (nor planned to do) a thing to the article, but fixed the template because too many links were wrong, and it doesn't show properly if a redirect. To my understanding, Missa in C would be enough for a mass in C major, but look at the discussion about Mozart's works, - insisting on both mass and major, - contradicting the NMA. But what's new, A Boy was Born is not permitted to appear as the composer had it published, nor the Missa which Bach graced with a title page (but in German) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Ref Desk proposal

Hi Jack, I don't know if you've been following the most recent thread on the ref desk talk page, but reading through the discussions again (and our guidelines and disclaimers), I have a simple proposal that I'd like your feedback on before I shop it to the whole group. It's very simple: For a trial period (1 month?), we agree to not remove or hat any questions for reasons of seeking medical/legal advice (and perhaps extend to include requests for opinion). Rather than a free-for-all, we first respond with boilerplate or a template, something along the lines of this:

“ Hello, and welcome to the Wikipedia Reference desk. Your question seems to be seeking medical or legal advice [or perhaps a request for opinion]. We do not give this type of advice [links to disclaimer and guidelines, header, etc], but our users will be allowed to post citations/links to informational references. We hope this information might be useful to you. If you further pursue advice here, this question may be removed. ”

At that point, we can remove any responses that diagnose, proscribe, treat any illness or legal situation, but allow links to RS. Perhaps even demand that any responses include references, or risk removal. Would that seem ok to you? The thing is, we really don't get that many medical legal questions, and I like how this puts us in the position to police ourselves as respondents, rather than posters. As I see it, this proposal is consistent with our guidelines, and it might forestall some debates, because hopefully the use of a template will warn all our regulars (and irregulars) to be on their best behavior. On the upside, we can then provide useful information, such as links to other people's opinion pieces, links to WP pages that are about medical topics, peer-reviewed literature, etc. So, any thoughts? Would you support such an experiment? Thanks, SemanticMantis (talk) 15:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello, SM. I have limited time at the moment to give the Ref Desk processes any serious thought or attention. On a quick read, your idea sounds worthwhile, but I'm not sure splitting discussions between the Ref Talk page and individual users' talk pages is the way to go. I'll respond more fully when I have time. Not sure when that might be. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jack, thanks for the note, and the ping. My goal in separating the conversation was to assess feelings and support. Also, those talk page "discussions" don't often feature much actual discussion - too many voices, note enough continuity. Anyway, I'm now backing away from explicit mention of allowing posters to reply to advice-seeking questions (responding is already clearly allowed by the guidelines, and putting that in the template may well encourage borderline behavior.) Thanks again, SemanticMantis (talk) 14:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

2013 Tbilisi anti-homophobia rally protests

I ask your assistance as you speak Russian and are familiar with the topic. This article has been nominated for deletion, and your comments at the deletion page may be helpful. I was curious if you might be able to find any Russian-language follow up sources regarding the investigation of the Orthodox Church, or anything else relevant, including a Russian-language article this can be linked to. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 02:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite. I can't promise I can get to it, but we'll see. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Palaszczuk

From ABC ticker: "Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk sworn in as Queensland Premier". An interim cabinet will be sworn in tomorrow. Timeshift (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Yep, I see that, but the actual story says only that she's been invited to form a government and an interim ministry will be sworn in on Saturday. Being invited to form a government is not the same as being sworn in. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 07:01, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

ABC have corrected it. Timeshift (talk) 07:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Precious again

musical company
Thank you for adding a German cellist to the countless enjoyable biographies, and Chopin's Polish songs, first heard when I young. Enjoy the company on the German Portal's DYK! - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (19 March 2009, 8 February 2011)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Three years ago, you were the eleventh recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, dear Gerda, enigmatic as ever. Please, never change. Thanks for keeping me constantly bemused, but thanks also for your kindness and charity. May 2015 be a truly magnificent year for you. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 09:23, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

psziepsziepszie

I assume you won't mind my posting this here. There was historically a large popultion of Rusyns in Novi Sad and in NE Croatia, see Pannonian Rusyn. Given the Rusyns are Eastern Slavs and consider themselves part of greater Рүсь, they often self-identify as Russian in English, especially to outsiders. The same thing goes with religion. My family are Catholics but they use the Orthodox rite of John Chrysostom in a modified form of Church Slavonic with a few changes in wording so as not to contradict theological differences since the great schism. My mother's mother's only formal schooling was in proper pomoskowski, and she learned Cyrillic in Philadelphia after they came here, not English, except by osmosis.

As for Polish Jewry, my mother's mother's mother was almost certainly born Jewish, in what was then SE Poland, and what is now likely about to become SW Russia. There is no baptismal certificate for her. The issue was kept hush-hush until the time of my grandmother's death. So I assume we are not too far separated. μηδείς (talk) 02:11, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and shchistya was my fault, Rusyn tends to differ in various vowels by dialect from Russian, and I get confused. (Compare Polish szczęście.) For example, in Rusyn "rain" is дыч. The weather was either (in approximation) "Dych pada", "Snik pada" or "Solntse jest"μηδείς (talk) 02:26, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't mind. Thanks to my kids' great-grandmother, they would be considered Jewish, I guess, because the line was female (great-grandmother > grandmother > mother > them). But they're both males, so that ends that. My new granddaughter must be a Gentile. (It doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me either way.) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 07:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

This only happens once every 823 years

Hello. Do you remember that I posted a question on the Reference Desk (Math, I believe) a few weeks ago? It was about that internet "hoax" claiming that a month having exactly four occurrences of each day of the week will only occur every 823 years. At some point in the past, you read this in the newspaper and you wrote a letter to the paper, letting them know that the claim is erroneous. In any event, you might be interested to read this conversation. It is located here: User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro#28.2425 days hath February. It has a somewhat plausible explanation of where that number of "once every 823 years" might come from. I thought you might be interested to see that. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 13:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Joseph. I was out of town recently and had little opportunity to check WP, so I would never have seen that unless you'd brought it to my attention. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Actually, another editor brought it to my attention as well. I would never have seen it, if that editor did not make me aware. In any event, I thought that the topic was of interest to you. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:47, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Piscine retribution

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. For the uncivil act of destroying the taste of Coffee through microwaving when everyone knows reheating it on the stove preserves the flavour. (note to anyone who might not realise it: this is a joke) Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 11 Adar 5775 17:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Heh. I knew that would offend some limp-wristed, lily-livered, faint-hearted, feeble-brained, feckless, gumptionless and other thoroughly undesirable types around here. But at least I use actual coffee, and not that abomination masquerading as "instant coffee".  :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:40, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hahahaha! Well I'll have to partly dispute the limp wrist point as I do shave with a straight-edge razor, good sir. Though I'd manage to have my hand bandaged up for two weeks after severing my radial artery in an unfortunate accident. Kudos for not touching that instant swill as well. I found an old manual drip coffee maker and I've converted my old man from the Dark Side. Normally I'll have it from a Moka Express though. Especially if I want to go on a nine espressi tear (not a joke). Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 11 Adar 5775 23:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Espressi and short blacks are not my things. There's gotta be a bit of the old cow juice in there. Early childhood training, I expect. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:11, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I prefer lattes and mochas she. I can get them, but espresso in a punch is always welcome. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 13 Adar 5775 17:03, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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Egdon Heath

How on earth had I not noticed the lack of an article? I suppose because I share GH's and RVW's view that it is the composer's greatest work, and I know and love every bar of it, I had never felt the need to look it up on WP. Be that as it may, thank you, dear Jack, for creating a fine and much-needed article. Ever thine, Tim riley talk 16:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

PS: why are you getting messages, above, from Sir Flinders Petrie? I was in his museum (near my flat) just the other day and nobody mentioned you. Tim riley talk 16:43, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

The real SWMFP is quite dead I'm afraid. I'm just a slightly more humble, but still arrogant, half-Jewish mildly Arabised 25-year-old American Nutmegger archaeologist from New York who went to UCL last year actually. We do both have fantastic beards though, as you can see (though my hair is shorter now) Also, WC1? Ritsy! 17:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Tim. We sort of had an article already, as Egdon Heath served for both the fictitious place and its cultural associations etc. But I felt the Holst tone poem deserved an article of its own. I do have the Boult recording of it but I can't say I know it the way you do, and so I was quite surprised to read that GH felt it was his best work, which made me wonder why it's so little played in concert or on radio and hence so little known compared to you know what.

Sir Flinders, you look completely different to the way I had always imagined you. Different, I hasten to add, in a good way. Your maternal grandfather and namesake Matthew Flinders has profound antipodean connections, so any time you're doing Biblical archaeology in Australia, please drop in for a cuppa. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Haha, yeah I get that a lot. Remember though that today's archaeologists are generally just badass nerds who prefer being in pain to being tired and consider anything less than two 15 kg buckets of dirt in each hand to be slacking (except that time last summer that I killed my right hand for a few weeks). You know, my closest and dearest friend (of the beautiful lady variety) currently lives in Aus and calls it Oz all the time and I never associated your name with it, but rather the Land of Oz! I'd probably spend most of my time digging with her, but sure, mate! Just no microwaving.... As for Matthew Flinders, he's come up a few times, but don't know much about the guy. Most archaeologists love his grandson because of the name as you can imagine. (Mind you, we spent two hours amusing ourselves last season by tossing pebbles at a beer cap we had a circle around while our rooms were inaccessible). Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 14 Adar 5775 23:03, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, Flinders is more responsible than anyone for us having the very name "Australia". He's been honoured on coins, stamps, libraries, a university, a mountain range, electorates, suburbs, and many other eponyms far too numerous to mention. Well worthy of getting to know better.

But as for microwaving tea - what you do think I am! A savage? A heathen?? A colonial??? Heavens above, man!  :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 01:22, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Left and right side on bridges

On the Seine, see the Right Bank page. Nyttend (talk) 18:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Nyttend. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:04, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Great Tea Race of 1866

I am a little mystified by the move you carried out from "the Great Tea Race of 1866" to "Great Tea Race of 1866". Would you be able to explain the purpose of this change? (I am just trying to find out how all this Wikipedia stuff works.)ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 21:00, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi. You pose a fair question. Please see Wikipedia:Article titles @ Avoid definite and indefinite articles:

• Do not place definite or indefinite articles (the, a, and an) at the beginning of titles unless they are part of a proper name (e.g. The Old Man and the Sea) or otherwise change the meaning (e.g. The Crown). They are noise words that needlessly lengthen article titles, and interfere with sorting and searching. For more guidance, see Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name).

Cheers, and happy editing. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:29, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Noted. Having read the rules and, mindful of usage by the sources that mention this event, this may be a borderline case. The reason is that the "the" seems to be an integral part of the phrase. However, I note that Wikipedia omits the "the" in "The Great North Run" - another instance where users of the phrase would regard the definite article as a part of it that conveys meaning. Not the end of the world whichever way this article is shown, but just a twinge of uneasiness about the end result of this rule. Such is the nature of rules.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 09:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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To my motley of admirers, followers, stalkers and sundry cohorts: Please see User talk:SemanticMantis#Areas of Interest. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:51, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Congrats...

To you and your fellow Aussies on winning the Cricket World Cup. Yet again. :) I am no cricket expert by any stretch, but I know enough to get by. I was following the espn-cricinfo gamecast, and when New Zealand only managed 183 runs by the time the last wicket was taken, I figured Australia would win easily and I retired for the night. It's probably good that NZ batted first, or the final score could have been a humiliation. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:26, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Luck plays a big part in cricket, and the Kiwis had bad luck. That's what I thought, but my partner said they were stupid and arrogant for not defending our balls as well as they could. He's always right. He's told me so many times.  :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:35, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

By now they are probably less stupid and less arrogant. Too late. Australia has won so often in recent years they should rename it the Oz Cup. As regards life partners, I'm reminded of this old saying (usually directed at men married to women): "You can be right, or you can be happy, but not both!" ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:45, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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Peter Allen (musician)

I'm dabbing this bloke and came across the baffling (but impressive looking) User:JackofOz/Research: A-C. I'm curious - what are you researching? I presume you mean the musical Peter Allen, rather than one of the many other Peter Allens we have here, but just checking... --Dweller (talk) 09:31, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, it had to happen eventually. I collect stuff; mostly information; mostly about people. My sources are legion, but newspapers account for the vast bulk. I'm forever cutting articles or tearing pages out of papers, for which reason my long-suffering partner has dubbed me "Jack the Ripper". I'm also forever chucking out stuff that I've sucked dry of juicy references for WP articles, or concluded that I should never have collected in the first place. When I keep something, it's not necessarily because I have any intention of ever using it for anything more than my own edification (assuming I ever find the time to actually read it); but if I ever do want to use it for other purposes, I need to be able to get to it quickly. After years of not managing this ever-increasing bank of data very well at all, I've finally developed something approaching a system that would enable me to do this. It requires an index, and because newspapers are irritatingly printed on both sides of the page, and a given page often has stuff of interest to me on both sides, cross-references are also required. It took quite some effort to get it set up, and along the way I kept finding stuff I'd collected and filed way in obscure places that I'd forgotten ever existed, so it took a while and it was very labour-intensive. But now it just needs updating for newly acquired stuff, or removal of names I'm done with.

So, you can see the word "research" is perhaps a little misnomerical. It's more like "Materials I've collected obsessively/compulsively just in case".  :) Thanks for taking an interest. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 10:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Gwarsh. --Dweller (talk) 11:26, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

a user who may need a friend

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Hatted

Jack, while I was giving a related and scientific answer to the succubus question which I thought would have been helpful, you must have been working on hatting the majority of the discussion (and I agree with your reason), and my post was of course at the end and ended up being hatted, too. Do you mind putting it back, please, maybe under the hatted section? Cheers. KägeTorä - (^影_虎) (もしもし！) 13:24, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Apparently my underlings have anticipated your desires and done the deed. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Invitation

It was a mistake

i reverted you by accident. it was a technical error whilst using an iPad. I'm very sorry. I'm switching to my laptop to avoid such errors in the future. —This lousy T-shirt— (talk) 21:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:52, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Royal Commissions

G'day Jack! I notice in your recent edit of the article on George Pape you altered the red link for Royal Commission on espionage to show Espionage with a capital E. At List of Australian Royal Commissions you might notice the titles of Royal Commissions do not use leading capital letters except in the case of proper nouns. The 1954 Royal Commission on espionage is included in this list at item 87 and the word espionage is not capitalised. Regards. Dolphin (t) 01:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Dolphin51.

It's interesting that some titles use title case. In the examples below, the capitalised words I've emboldened would not normally be capitalised:

• Royal Commission on the Moving Picture Industry in Australia
• Royal Commission of Inquiry into Drug Trafficking
• Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody
• Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse,

yet most titles are not like this:

• Royal Commission into Australian meat industry
• Royal Commission of inquiry into the activities of the Nugan Hand Group
• Royal Commission on the use and effects of chemical agents on Australian personnel in Vietnam
• Royal Commission on Australia's security and intelligence agencies.

Why do certain titles use title case but most not? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 02:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

What flag is this ?

The symbol is the Fleur-de-lis, but the design doesn't appear in that article @ Fleur-de-lis#Coats-of-arms and flags. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 05:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

thanks for your comment but it's no fleur-de-lis at all: I just found out it's in Mongolia! Blump007 (talk) 07:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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Echidna

Speaking of echidnas (echidnae?), when I was teaching animals in Japan to Japanese children, one of the flash cards I had to use was 'echidna', with a picture of it. All was going well until I got to this card, and all the kids said, "What is THAT?" and I couldn't answer, because I had never even heard of it myself. Totally useless word for my language centre to force me to teach to a bunch of 5 year olds. On another occasion, I was teaching a 9 year old Japanese girl here in the UK, and gave her homework to write down as many animals as she could beginning with each letter of the alphabet. For 'I' she chose 'Impala', and I said, "...what?" She said, "Impala, it's an animal in Africa." So I said, "OK, show me in the dictionary." She took out her Japanese>English dictionary, and showed me the word 'impara', which was translated as 'impala', and turned out to be a type of antelope. Well, I didn't bloody well know that. Teaching is a learning experience, too. :) KägeTorä - (^影_虎) (もしもし！) 13:39, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Category:Newman family

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