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Thanks so much for your hard work on Buchanan High School. I'm sure you've noticed I've nibbled at a few of the things you've done but most were just technical fixes. I can appreciate how hard it is to find good sources for small town schools (I've written articles on a couple UP high schools...), and it's nice to see good encyclopedic content rather than the WP:SCHOOLCRUFT usually seen (and very prevalent in this article prior to your edits). Your work is appreciated.

I had to remove the logo. Although many if not most school articles feature a logo, the actual logo is almost always copyrighted by the school district. This is necessary to protect their ability to obtain revenue on licensed sports logo products. Wikipedia Commons can only accept images with a free license such as public domain or CC BY-SA 3.0, which, even if you somehow had the authority to authorize it, would eliminate the need for any athletic gear vendor to share revenue with the school district, because they could legally obtain the logo without payment from Commons. Obviously not something anybody wants.

All is not lost. English Wikipedia (this website en.wikipedia.org) accepts what are called "fair-use" exceptions to copyright. When you click the "upload file", simply choose English Wikipedia instead of Commons. You'll be asked if it is a copyright image, (yes), and then what type (logo). A wizzard will open, and it's pretty straightforward until the end. The fair use rationale is this (I've memorized it, but if you want further understanding, see WP:NFCC): "One only low res copy of this image will be used to provide visual identification on the above named article". The school's website design complicates this one a bit. One of the blanks you must fill in is where you got the file. Usually that is the school website, but here, you fished it out of Amazon. So in the last box you'll need to mention the school's website and state the file was obtained from a cache of officially licensed images associated with the sales of licensed logoed merchandise on Amazon. No sweat, copyright is one of the most difficult issues on Wikipedia.

I've raised the quality rating on the article from stub to start. If you can add just about anything more solid with secondary sources, it's almost to a C. Thanks again. John from Idegon (talk) 00:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. Just to let you know, the notability exception given to schools does not apply to athletic conferences. I reverted the numerous changes you made because you gave no sources for it. As I said, notability for a high school athletic conference is somewhat dubious (people just don't write much about them.) Hence, when you make factual changes, please source them. Even if each individual source doesn't add much to notability, it's better than the virtually no sources that are there now. I know you to be a conscientious editor, so I thought I'd explain the revert thoroughly. John from Idegon (talk) 21:51, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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